Re: Tonight's game : Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:57 pm  

https://vine.co/v/Mzdrbhg6x3v the hit on walsh. Thats a shoulder charge if ever there was one, you cant tell how high it was, but there is no effort at all to make a tackle, just to take walsh out

https://vine.co/v/Mzdrbhg6x3v the hit on walsh. Thats a shoulder charge if ever there was one, you cant tell how high it was, but there is no effort at all to make a tackle, just to take walsh out

Re: Tonight's game : Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:07 pm  

he realized that the ball had gone, that is not even close to being a shoulder charge. he's arms where up but realized the ball had gone hence the reason he looks behind him as soon as it happens.

He clearly is looking for a big hit walsh sees that draws him and passes it but flower can't disappear. Its less than a second late and it was hardly dirty no matter how bias you can be against Wigan or what ever previous Wigan have.

Re: Tonight's game : Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:13 pm  

dubairl wrote:

he realized that the ball had gone, that is not even close to being a shoulder charge. he's arms where up but realized the ball had gone hence the reason he looks behind him as soon as it happens.

He clearly is looking for a big hit walsh sees that draws him and passes it but flower can't disappear. Its less than a second late and it was hardly dirty no matter how bias you can be against Wigan or what ever previous Wigan have.

I'm not saying its late, and of course he doesnt have time to stop but hes not trying to make a tackle, its a shoulder charge pure and simple.

Re: Tonight's game : Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:24 pm  

seriously thats not a shoulder charge and of course he is trying to make a tackle but realize the ball has gone and pulls out of it its just a collision. You would have to be soft to call foul play for that.

A shoulder charge is where a player makes no attempt with his arms and turns the shoulder into the tackle with his arms down by the side. You will see that kind of collision at least once a game.

Re: Tonight's game : Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:28 pm  

dubairl wrote:

You will see that kind of collision at least once a game.

you see it at least twice a game because you watch wigan!

Re: Tonight's game : Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:30 pm  

i would be more upset if i didn't see it as players wouldn't be committing to tackles. Even the most die hard saints fan must thats not foul play.

Re: Tonight's game : Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:32 pm  

It's hard to see where contact was on that video. It's whether the injury was a result of Flower's tackle (Walsh hurt his jaw so it would be then a high tackle) or the collision with Amor.

Either way I wouldn't say it was late.

Re: Tonight's game : Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:05 am  

Definitely not a late tackle but if it's that contact which has led to a facial injury it's a high tackle without use of the arms. I wouldn't class it as intentional but I would say it's dangerous and reckless. Flower could be looking at a couple of games but the angle is inconclusive as to the origin of the contact.

Re: Tonight's game : Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:15 am  

Saint Simon wrote:

https://vine.co/v/Mzdrbhg6x3v
the hit on walsh.

Thats a shoulder charge if ever there was one, you cant tell how high it was, but there is no effort at all to make a tackle, just to take walsh out

It's not a shoulder charge, it's an attempt at a ball and all tackle. The arms were wrapped around but only briefly as Flower realised the ball had gone.

Re: Tonight's game : Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:23 am  

Cherry.Pie wrote:

It's not a shoulder charge, it's an attempt at a ball and all tackle. The arms were wrapped around but only briefly as Flower realised the ball had gone.

GET. OFF. THE. CRACK.