Re: Today's 17 : Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:50 pm  

St pete wrote:

I'm in utter shock we are top of the league. It shows that the standard is pretty poor these days.

Can't disagree with that, it's a point everyone agrees on, compare the quality to even 10 years ago and it's changed. Lightyears doesn't go far enough from the distance that we're away from the NRL.

Re: Today's 17 : Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:54 pm  

I was listening on the radio today and was in shock as it was happening...However, on reflection it shouldn't be that shocking. How many times have we done this so far this season? It's becoming painful to watch us succumb to another team that we should be beating and beaten by such a margin. I've been embarrassed of this team far too often this season.

It's tiresome and if the players can't be arsed to put a shift in every week, then why should I be arsed?

What on earth is everyone else doing? How can we be top of the league. I can't get my head around that at all.

Re: Today's 17 : Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:58 pm  

Wish I could disagree. I look at our present team and wonder how many would have been good enough to get into the Saints team of 99/2000/2002 & 2006...

Re: Today's 17 : Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:09 pm  

Twentyman wrote:

Wish I could disagree. I look at our present team and wonder how many would have been good enough to get into the Saints team of 99/2000/2002 & 2006...

None

Re: Today's 17 : Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:10 pm  

a comment made on the radio was that the reason the results this year have been less predictable is not that the mid placed teams are getting better, but that the top teams are getting worse. and its very true.

Saints of 96 and 2005-7 would walk this league
Bradford of 2000 ish would walk this league
Wigan of 94-5 would walk this league.

in 2005 we could sign Jamie Lyon and had Darren Albert, 2 years later we signed Matt Gidley.
a year or so later Wigan had trent barratt and Leeds signed buderus
quality, world class signings.

9 years later or less NRL averagely good Luke Walsh is described as a superstar (Longy at 28 was far better)
Wigan's amazing signing was a player who retired before signing for them. Leeds' best player is 36 and they're second best 34

Re: Today's 17 : Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:15 pm  

Twentyman wrote:

Wish I could disagree. I look at our present team and wonder how many would have been good enough to get into the Saints team of 99/2000/2002 & 2006...

Roby would be good enough for a bench spot.

Re: Today's 17 : Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:16 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

Roby would be good enough for a bench spot.

and thats all he got behind KC

Re: Today's 17 : Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:13 pm  

We are top because (a) we put in that great run to start with and (b) we have won just enough games to put us back there when we have slipped down.

So I think the club probably wants to win the hubcap but the coach and/or players are simply doing the minimum they think is required to achieve it.

Re: Today's 17 : Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:01 pm  

You was saying ?

Re: Today's 17 : Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:28 pm  

It's got to be a result of most clubs tightening their belts a bit and not paying crazy wages for overseas stars. There's definitely a lot more homegrown players playing for their clubs which is a good thing of course. It depends what you prefer I guess...do you want 12-14 teams spending daft money, increasing their quality but obviously decreasing their stability or do you want to see it how it is now?