Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:01 pm  

I would think that was quite a confidence builder. It was one of the most intensive games of SL this year and we held up well, with 5 strike players out.
Plus 2 lost during the game.

If you can run them close in a game like that, then there should not be an issue. Put one halfback on the field and you get Turner back at Centre and we have an attacking threat in the middle and out wide.

No issues with anyone today. We should have tried a younger half with Lance but you can see why we did not want to throw them in at the deep end

Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:26 pm  

St pete wrote:

It's simple, on last tackle you give yourself more room. Jesus, I was doing that at 10yrs old! Surley fulltime experienced pros can stand 2m further back.

Logical answer. Following on from that. Haw many times this season have our kicks been charged down with resultant 6 pointers ?

Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:36 pm  

wirefox wrote:

Logical answer. Following on from that. Haw many times this season have our kicks been charged down with resultant 6 pointers ?

I said same thing today. We must have had most charge downs on us in super league this year.

Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:39 pm  

But weren't you a natural half??

Would explain the difference.

Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:10 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

But weren't you a natural half??

Would explain the difference.

Yes but it's no rocket science and Turner has played 6 many times. I think he played at 6 for England Knights.

If your getting charged down on the kicks, you take a extra 2m back. Even 13 year old kids can work that out.

If Tuner stays at 6, he needs to run the ball more. He's not blessed with the best of rugby brains and his passes at times should come with a health warning so he needs to be more of a running 6.

Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:22 pm  

t's not the offsides which cost us this game. It's james green's foul on travis burns. Stick a real halfback on the field for us today, and we win. We can't carry on with this "stick anyone with legs in the halves". We need a halfback who can actually move the ball effectively.[/quote]

Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:13 pm  

Question, do you guys not consider Hohaia a half back? There's been a lot said about the fact you didn't have any on the field, but that seems to do a disservice to the guy who had the #6 jersey last season.

FWIW I think Wigan should have won by a lot more than they did and is a sign that they lack potency in attack and that St Helens, for all their injuries are a top team and will be shoe-ins for both trophies when they get back to full strength.

Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:25 pm  

secondstanza wrote:

Question, do you guys not consider Hohaia a half back? There's been a lot said about the fact you didn't have any on the field, but that seems to do a disservice to the guy who had the #6 jersey last season.

FWIW I think Wigan should have won by a lot more than they did and is a sign that they lack potency in attack and that St Helens, for all their injuries are a top team and will be shoe-ins for both trophies when they get back to full strength.

I'd say at best he can fill in alongside another more creative halfback. For me he's a hooker.

Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:45 pm  

He's no definite position, which has probably worked against him playing time wise these last few seasons. Forwards did alright today, but we had nothing on the end of it, which is understandable with the players we're missing. Today proved that Wigan aren't up to much to me, if we had a full team it would have been very different as they were only missing O'Loughlin who would have contributed to a better Wigan side.

Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:46 pm  

Last year Saints lost Walsh halfway through the season and also played without a recognised #6. Shouldn't the question be raised as to why the likes of Charnock and Hewitt weren't given some game time. If you compare that to Wigan they would have used Powell, Williams and Hampshire.