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Re: Disciplinery Results Vs Doncaster : Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:34 pm  
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Maybe Gareth Hock could take it up as he's been involved in all aspects of disciplinary over the years

Lol, so has Jamie Bloem!
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Re: Disciplinery Results Vs Doncaster : Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:48 pm  
Could we please, please, please sign Jarrod Sammut?
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Re: Disciplinery Results Vs Doncaster : Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:44 pm  
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Could we please, please, please sign Jarrod Sammut?


You do understand how a salary cap works, right? You expect Jarrod to play for free?
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Re: Disciplinery Results Vs Doncaster : Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:07 pm  
I haven't seen this incident but it - and the aftermath - sounds similar to Rangi Chase's elbow attack on Tangi Ropati in the Challenge Cup match in 2012 which broke Tangis' jaw. Tangi was out injured for almost four months, and Chase got a farcical ban of three months. The incident is shown below, with a link to what Tangi looked like afterwards below it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCZHmfa4FbE

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-spo ... is-1677043
I haven't seen this incident but it - and the aftermath - sounds similar to Rangi Chase's elbow attack on Tangi Ropati in the Challenge Cup match in 2012 which broke Tangis' jaw. Tangi was out injured for almost four months, and Chase got a farcical ban of three months. The incident is shown below, with a link to what Tangi looked like afterwards below it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCZHmfa4FbE

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-spo ... is-1677043
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Re: Disciplinery Results Vs Doncaster : Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:32 pm  
The incident that created Gaskells injury looked deliberate as shown on Bulls TV (Doncaster game highlights) and as per the fairness rule Groat got 3 games, with Gaskell's injury maybe 8 weeks.
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Re: Disciplinery Results Vs Doncaster : Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:00 pm  
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You do understand how a salary cap works, right? You expect Jarrod to play for free?


suppose it all depends how close to salary cap we are.

What rules apply re: a player who hasn't played for us in a competitive game i.e Peterson or Davies. I seem to remember that provided a player hasn't featured in a league or cup game (pretty certain friendlies don't count) then you can pay them off and release them and its like they never existed as far as cap is concerned.
I'm sure a team did something along these lines a few years back when they had a player with a long term injury. Wondering if something along those lines is being considered and is why Davies seems to never get mentioned anymore. Pretty certain his and Petersons appearances for Oxford wouldn't count as they were under dual reg so were registered to Oxford when they played.
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Re: Disciplinery Results Vs Doncaster : Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:14 pm  
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You do understand how a salary cap works, right? You expect Jarrod to play for free?


Why don't you explain as apparently you're party to the Bulls live salary spend?
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Re: Disciplinery Results Vs Doncaster : Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:35 am  
The grub Groat explained how he never menat to hurt anybody, guv, but he felt someone pull his shirt and he needed to get back to the defensive line like pronto. So urgent was this need that he thought "shall I push away the player who has hold of my shirt so that I can retire to the defensive line?" He dismissed this option, as apparently, to push the player off in such a way would somehow mean that no, he wouldn't get back to the defensive line quickly enough. Instead, his decision was that lashing out with his elbow would work quicker, and thus get him back in the defensive line with the desired alacrity.

But he never intended to elbow anybody, though.

Confused? Me too. A push stands a good chance of effecting a release. But a wild swing with the elbow would be quicker? Would it? How? if I push a player away, he may break his grip on my shirt. If I elbow him, though, he is unlikely to. Not unless I actually cause him serious pain, so much so, that he involuntarily lets go. So to me, his weaselly admission in fact serves to confirm that he hoped to cause serious pain with his elbow, otherwise it would be a pointless choice.

But nobody in the disciplinary seems to have worked this out.

It'll never happen, but really, in a case as clear cut as this, the offender should have to sit out as many games as the player he puts out of the game, if that is longer than his primary ban. Maybe then Groat might feel it was not worth saving a split second in his journey time if he risked putting himself out of the game for a few months, even if he wasn't bothered about taking the risk of crocking a fellow professional. And it would be only fair.
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Re: Disciplinery Results Vs Doncaster : Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:49 am  
I just wonder what responsibility the match officials have in all this, they have a requirement to see to the player’s welfare and prevent dangerous play. Anybody who was at the match could see Doncaster were becoming frustrated and had started to take it out on the Bull’s players. Yet the officials do nothing until it ends up with players fighting (Leigh game) and Lee being elbowed. I know some of you will say “it’s a man’s game” – contact sport etc. but stiff arm tackles and the like are dangerous. Look at the times AOB gets clobbered.
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