Re: Super 8's Game 2: Wakefield Away : Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:31 am  

Bullseye wrote:

The point I was making was that Wakefield took the ball up quicker and their line speed in defence was quicker. Their kick chase was better too. They did it all quicker than us and were playing at a higher intensity than us.

And the point I would make is that this isn't strictly accurate, as in that opening, because of our statuesque tactics, we hardly had a sniff of the ball, so there's no basis for a proper comparison. I think the half time graphic showed that Wakey played about 7,248 PTBs in the box directly under our posts.

Bullseye wrote:

Not sure why we were so lethargic. We are capable of better.

But it must be Lowes' responsibility. And as I've said, if we had gone out and played hard and as if we wanted it, but got beat, I would be fine with that. I agree that we are capable of much, much better against SL clubs but it's no good having a box full of fantastic ammunition, if you leave it on the bus.

Re: Super 8's Game 2: Wakefield Away : Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:09 pm  

roofaldo2 wrote:

He's Jewish. Saturday is the Sabbath. Do the math

Maths, we aren't in the USA

Re: Super 8's Game 2: Wakefield Away : Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:19 pm  

meast wrote:

Maths, we aren't in the USA

Math or Maths are both equally valid, and as it's only 1 thing that's needed to be worked out, there's no need for the pural

[Bulliac]

Re: Super 8's Game 2: Wakefield Away : Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:20 pm  

meast wrote:

Maths, we aren't in the USA

You tell 'em, mate - we had someone going on about our 'alternate' strip last week...

[Bullseye]

Re: Super 8's Game 2: Wakefield Away : Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:46 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

And the point I would make is that this isn't strictly accurate, as in that opening, because of our statuesque tactics, we hardly had a sniff of the ball, so there's no basis for a proper comparison. I think the half time graphic showed that Wakey played about 7,248 PTBs in the box directly under our posts.

But it must be Lowes' responsibility. And as I've said, if we had gone out and played hard and as if we wanted it, but got beat, I would be fine with that. I agree that we are capable of much, much better against SL clubs but it's no good having a box full of fantastic ammunition, if you leave it on the bus.

Our statuesque tactics/lack of intensity in our play compared with Wakefield's quicker way of doing everything, seemingly "wanting it" more/higher intensity.

The comparison was quite clear to me. They were all trying harder than us/doing everything at a higher level.

Wakefield had 98605798 play the balls on our line because their line speed stopped us getting out of our 30m area and forced us to kick defensively. They also kicked and chased better and had umpteen options for Smith who we laid the red carpet out for. They were all thinking and working together. We were the opposite. It wasn't help by injuries but we were getting spanked before Gaskell and Pitts went off.

I'd agree it's partly Lowes responsibility. It's not the first time we've played like that so you'd think he'd see the signs beforehand in the lead up to the game or in the warm up or even if the atmos isn't right in the dressing room. It's also the players responsibility. I do wonder about a lack of leaders in the dressing room.

Re: Super 8's Game 2: Wakefield Away : Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:27 pm  

Of course your absolutely right about the Leadership on the field. Plenty of us agree and we know about the intensity that SL brings. Its an inescapable fact. So would I be correct in saying all the games up to the 8s meant nothing? It seems so.

Re: Super 8's Game 2: Wakefield Away : Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:44 pm  

It's entirely Lowe's and Ferres responsibility. 38 players and yet no experience, leadership or depth at 7 or 9. AoB made 44 tackles and 5 runs from dummy half on Saturday. What possible purpose has this idiocy served?

Who is our captain btw? Didn't just about every person on this board go ????? when Chev was resigned?

Re: Super 8's Game 2: Wakefield Away : Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:40 pm  

This whole 69 page thread has reminded me of something a famous Welsh rugby player who played RL for a while (for the money) once said at my local RFC- 'I think Union and League fans have alot in common. They are both obsessed with Union.'