Re: Bulls force salary cap row... : Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:32 pm  

vbfg wrote:

I don't see why arbitrarily deciding to monetarily reward someone for what they do on the pitch should count towards a sports team's salary cap.

It doesn't. Only a fool would suggest otherwise.

I am about to buy a SL franchise, as I won the American Powerball and am now a multibillionaire. My wage structure is that all my squad of 100 would be paid £5 each per season.

At the end of season awards, a gift fund would be distributed on a sliding scale. The POTY would get £250,000 and the last in the voting would get £100,000.

I should think they would deserve it as I can't afford to pay them a decent wage yet they work so hard all year.

Re: Bulls force salary cap row... : Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:28 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

It doesn't. Only a fool would suggest otherwise.

I am about to buy a SL franchise, as I won the American Powerball and am now a multibillionaire. My wage structure is that all my squad of 100 would be paid £5 each per season.

At the end of season awards, a gift fund would be distributed on a sliding scale. The POTY would get £250,000 and the last in the voting would get £100,000.

I should think they would deserve it as I can't afford to pay them a decent wage yet they work so hard all year.

Great idea sounds like market value £££££

Re: Bulls force salary cap row... : Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:22 pm  

I'm unclear what Koukash is banging on about with this one? He appears to be claiming that the RFL have no right interfering with a salary cap investigation as the courts have already ruled in Salford's favour? Am I missing something as I was under the impression that Salford where in court to rule over a dispute with Tony Puletua (which is where the double contract issue came up), not for a salary cap hearing. I'm assuming that the courts won't have had any interest in the salary cap?

Am I understanding this correctly?

To say Koukash has so much money he does seem short of a few shillings at the same time.

Re: Bulls force salary cap row... : Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:52 pm  

Sensei-Bull wrote:

I'm unclear what Koukash is banging on about with this one? He appears to be claiming that the RFL have no right interfering with a salary cap investigation as the courts have already ruled in Salford's favour? Am I missing something as I was under the impression that Salford where in court to rule over a dispute with Tony Puletua (which is where the double contract issue came up), not for a salary cap hearing. I'm assuming that the courts won't have had any interest in the salary cap?

Am I understanding this correctly?

To say Koukash has so much money he does seem short of a few shillings at the same time.

That's pretty much what's happened, yeah. And in addition to that someone on the VT is claiming that the court didn't exactly 'rule in Salford's favour' either. Tony was claiming for monies owed via the second contract. The court ruled that Salford rugby club didn't owe Tony anything, but that his claim against the other company was valid and the court ordered the second contract to be honoured. So essentially Tony got what he was after.

However I should point out that the poster on the VT didn't back this up with any proof so it could quite easily all be a load of nonsense.

Re: Bulls force salary cap row... : Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:13 pm  

Thanks for the clarification. Sounds like it's opened a can of worms. Koukash sounded so adamant on Twitter that the courts had already dealt with the issue that I thought i'd missed something. It'll be interesting to see how this one pans out but I can't see anything coming of it unless he's done a Melbourne and filed all the incriminating paperwork.

[Bullseye]

Re: Bulls force salary cap row... : Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:36 pm  

The courts didn't rule on whether the salary cap rules had been breached. That's a matter for the RFL.

Re: Bulls force salary cap row... : Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:58 am  

Our experience at the Bulls will have shown the uninitiated how company law can be used to make anything look like anything, legally turn a huge profit into a huge loss by the stroke of an accounting pen, and create impenetrable fog around the smoke and mirrors that conceal any of the truth about what goes on. And even when the odd snippet comes out, six sides all deny it and claim a different story. We also know that, in the end, not only do you never get to the bottom of anything, you don't even get to do much more than prise the lid off a little bit. It's all legal, like the banks losing hundreds of billions while all taking millions in bonuses, and almost completely unaccountable. Once some elements of the press would dig and drill and peck at stories until they got to the nitty gritty but frankly there is no investigative press any more, nobody seemingly gives a sh.it. The Salford Star (as in this article|) is one place that does try to dig into the complicated Salford morass, but while you can get quite a lot of information from reading their articles, it seems clear that they can not hope to get to the bottom of things either, with straight bats being played by the relevant parties.

Our experience at the Bulls will have shown the uninitiated how company law can be used to make anything look like anything, legally turn a huge profit into a huge loss by the stroke of an accounting pen, and create impenetrable fog around the smoke and mirrors that conceal any of the truth about what goes on. And even when the odd snippet comes out, six sides all deny it and claim a different story. We also know that, in the end, not only do you never get to the bottom of anything, you don't even get to do much more than prise the lid off a little bit. It's all legal, like the banks losing hundreds of billions while all taking millions in bonuses, and almost completely unaccountable. Once some elements of the press would dig and drill and peck at stories until they got to the nitty gritty but frankly there is no investigative press any more, nobody seemingly gives a sh.it. The Salford Star (as in this article|) is one place that does try to dig into the complicated Salford morass, but while you can get quite a lot of information from reading their articles, it seems clear that they can not hope to get to the bottom of things either, with straight bats being played by the relevant parties.

[Bulliac]

Re: Bulls force salary cap row... : Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:18 pm  

What a bloody mess..