Re: New Owners : Fri May 27, 2016 10:17 am  

rugbyreddog wrote:

So why did Green take over Bulls if not to try get his money back. He was after all the biggest creditor. Or are you saying that now he owns them all his debts are wiped clean.

The simple answer is, you can't owe yourself money, can you! It's a bit more complicated than that of course as Green was neither owed money nor does he own the Bulls, different companies do.

SGS had a full charge over all Bulls assets. If the club folded they got first dibs. The assets were valued at much more than the debt.

Whether or not, you surely can't believe that if you're owed money, buying a failing sports club is any way to "get it back"? Really? And there was me thinking that ANY sports club is nothing but a money sink, the bigger the club, the deeper the hole You surely aren't so naive as to think that buying a sports club somehow starts to immediately make you hundreds of thousands of pounds?? What substances are you taking?

rugbyreddog wrote:

Perhaps you could ask his bank manager whether he is in a better state now than he was before he got involved with the Bulls.

Well, quite!! Green doesn't say much, but I'd bet a bundle that he has since he took over PUT MONEY IN, plenty of it, to keep our pot near the boil. I'd say anyone who believes the opposite, that he's somehow miracling a big income from the Bulls, is pretty delusional. He MUST be financially supporting the club, one way or another. Anything else doesn't stack up. And kudos to him for doing so.

But if, as you imply, he is in a worse financial state - then how does that square with your starting statement that he took over the Bulls "to get his money back"?

rugbyreddog wrote:

He was convinced by the RFL that the only chance he had was to take them over instead of the previous applicants. Make your own mind up whether the RFL where being disingenuous or not.

Marc Green getting hoodwinked by the RFL! I know there are some crazy theories around nowadays but that one would be high up my personal list! If Green was running RFL we'd probably be te times better off, I'd bet he and his financial team would run rings round the RFL> Certainly, there i no way he took advice from, or relied on, anythging the RFL said, and not only because of the above, but because of course they were not involved. Nor did they have any say, licensing apart, who could own the Bulls. And if you are suggesting the RFL interfered with due process of law and sabotaged other potential buyers, to the advantage of their favoured choice, maybe you need a good lawyer

Re: New Owners : Fri May 27, 2016 10:36 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

The simple answer is, you can't owe yourself money, can you! It's a bit more complicated than that of course as Green was neither owed money nor does he own the Bulls, different companies do.

SGS had a full charge over all Bulls assets. If the club folded they got first dibs. The assets were valued at much more than the debt.

Whether or not, you surely can't believe that if you're owed money, buying a failing sports club is any way to "get it back"? Really? And there was me thinking that ANY sports club is nothing but a money sink, the bigger the club, the deeper the hole You surely aren't so naive as to think that buying a sports club somehow starts to immediately make you hundreds of thousands of pounds?? What substances are you taking?

Well, quite!! Green doesn't say much, but I'd bet a bundle that he has since he took over PUT MONEY IN, plenty of it, to keep our pot near the boil. I'd say anyone who believes the opposite, that he's somehow miracling a big income from the Bulls, is pretty delusional. He MUST be financially supporting the club, one way or another. Anything else doesn't stack up. And kudos to him for doing so.

But if, as you imply, he is in a worse financial state - then how does that square with your starting statement that he took over the Bulls "to get his money back"?


Marc Green getting hoodwinked by the RFL! I know there are some crazy theories around nowadays but that one would be high up my personal list! If Green was running RFL we'd probably be te times better off, I'd bet he and his financial team would run rings round the RFL> Certainly, there i no way he took advice from, or relied on, anythging the RFL said, and not only because of the above, but because of course they were not involved. Nor did they have any say, licensing apart, who could own the Bulls. And if you are suggesting the RFL interfered with due process of law and sabotaged other potential buyers, to the advantage of their favoured choice, maybe you need a good lawyer

Are you on your period this week FA? You seem a bit uptight at the moment?

Re: New Owners : Fri May 27, 2016 10:51 am  

I think if it was a case of just getting his money back Green would have put us part time, scrapped the academy etc If it's just about money you don't fund long term projects like academies.

I think he's a good chairman. Think people forget just what a sorry state we were in 2014.

Re: New Owners : Fri May 27, 2016 1:28 pm  

Think FA is just being deliberately perverse. Nowhere have I said that he expects to get his money back by running a sports club. Unlike FA I do not however believe he has suddenly fallen in love with the sport.

Re: New Owners : Sat May 28, 2016 11:15 am  

rugbyreddog wrote:

Think FA is just being deliberately perverse. Nowhere have I said that he expects to get his money back by running a sports club. Unlike FA I do not however believe he has suddenly fallen in love with the sport.

You said his motive was to "get his money back" but omitted to say how putting more of it into the Bulls would achieve this.

Re: New Owners : Sat May 28, 2016 11:24 am  

mystic eddie wrote:

Are you on your period this week FA? You seem a bit uptight at the moment?

Bathed in the Blackpool sunshine, dozing off a full English, I couldn't be more chilled, as it goes. Your misogynist "joke", though, would make Donald Trump blush, what were you thinking?

Re: New Owners : Sat May 28, 2016 11:55 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Bathed in the Blackpool sunshine, dozing off a full English, I couldn't be more chilled, as it goes. Your misogynist "joke", though, would make Donald Trump blush, what were you thinking?

Perhaps M E meant male menopause, but I could be mistaken!