Salford and the quota (?) : Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:28 pm  

Salford have today announced another Aussie signing. Are they playing to the same rules as everyone else and should the other clubs (including ours) take action?

Re: Salford and the quota (?) : Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:35 pm  

From next season clubs can have 7 non-fed players and/with/or 5 overseas.

So effectively two extra Kolpak players. It's probbly for a few reasons; Koukash and London, maybe Wakefield.

Isn't Kaufusi Tongan...?

Re: Salford and the quota (?) : Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:38 pm  

... by the way I'm not entirely sure how Salford's signings fit into this revised quota ruling. I only assume it's 'accordingly'.

[Bulliac]

Re: Salford and the quota (?) : Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:59 pm  

It's all done "live" via the RFL, so mistakes can't happen..............

Re: Salford and the quota (?) : Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:22 pm  

It strikes me that people see the signings Salford make, jump to some vague and purely bullshit conclusion that "it must be in breach of quotas, well, stands to sense, innit" without knowing the numbers or checking the rules, and then post indignant bilge.

I'm sorry, but do you really think Salford would sign a player and commit to big money without first knowing for a fact that their quota rules were in order? And that the player and his agent would be so stupid too? Really?

Do you not know that in order to sign a player, you have to register him, lodge his contract etc and the RFL monitors eligibility etc "live"?

Or maybe all the above, but without even knowing the quota categories or what players fall into which, you'd rather accuse the RFL of a conspiracy to relax the rules in Salford's case - a conspiracy which of course ALL the other competing SL clubs are happy to overlook.

FFS, get a grip, people. To me, it's great that another club - in this case, Salford, but it could be anybody, I don't care - is maing a big noise, a big splash, and a big effort. All concerned should be applauded, and I look forward to watching Nobby's New Salford over the next few years to see how he puts it all together.

Re: Salford and the quota (?) : Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:03 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

It strikes me that people see the signings Salford make, jump to some vague and purely bullshit conclusion that "it must be in breach of quotas, well, stands to sense, innit" without knowing the numbers or checking the rules, and then post indignant bilge.

I'm sorry, but do you really think Salford would sign a player and commit to big money without first knowing for a fact that their quota rules were in order? And that the player and his agent would be so stupid too? Really?

Do you not know that in order to sign a player, you have to register him, lodge his contract etc and the RFL monitors eligibility etc "live"?

Or maybe all the above, but without even knowing the quota categories or what players fall into which, you'd rather accuse the RFL of a conspiracy to relax the rules in Salford's case - a conspiracy which of course ALL the other competing SL clubs are happy to overlook.

FFS, get a grip, people. To me, it's great that another club - in this case, Salford, but it could be anybody, I don't care - is maing a big noise, a big splash, and a big effort. All concerned should be applauded, and I look forward to watching Nobby's New Salford over the next few years to see how he puts it all together.

It would've helped if the RFL had announced the quota changes to the fans though, that way people would've understood better. I - you're average joe fan - read it this last Monday in a small article in League Express and came to the conclusion this may explain Salford signings.

There was a theory Smith was off-quota to allow Wakefield to use the money, that would stack up. Also similar happened with Crusaders and their exemptions.

Also, an immediate example of registering players, London signed Jarrad Hickey in 2012 and couldn't play him due to their being no room under the quota at that time. So it can happen.

Some fans shout off and look like a fool, some ask the question of how and others say nothing and then finger wag later.

Re: Salford and the quota (?) : Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:39 pm  

Other example that springs to mind is sammut for us this year. His exemption that he got for playing at crusaders should have run out at end of his first contract after crusaders, yet it was mysteriously extended when he re-signed for us last year. AFAIK it was never explained anywhere why it was extended. So maybe we shouldnt be so quick to throw stones. people in glasshouses and all that.

Re: Salford and the quota (?) : Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:46 pm  

mat wrote:

Other example that springs to mind is sammut for us this year. His exemption that he got for playing at crusaders should have run out at end of his first contract after crusaders, yet it was mysteriously extended when he re-signed for us last year. AFAIK it was never explained anywhere why it was extended. So maybe we shouldnt be so quick to throw stones. people in glasshouses and all that.

We successfully argued that had we known about the up coming exemptions for the Crusaders players we would have waited and then signed him on a longer contract as two other clubs had done.

Re: Salford and the quota (?) : Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:21 pm  

redeverready wrote:

We successfully argued that had we known about the up coming exemptions for the Crusaders players we would have waited and then signed him on a longer contract as two other clubs had done.

So he'll lose his exemption at end of his current deal?

Re: Salford and the quota (?) : Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:22 pm  

mat wrote:

So he'll lose his exemption at end of his current deal?

Yes from what I'm led to believe.