Hock : Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:45 pm  

I'm living on chinese rocks
All my best things are in hock

I think Hock’s level of stupidity is obvious, but that not really my point. Would this have happened under a different coach? Does it show a lack of respect for SMc? Personally, I think SMc doesn’t have the kudos as a player or the record as a coach required to be able to psychologically control the more wayward players. I am surprised at Graham & Hardaker if the rumours are correct. I don’t think SMc had many other options available after the indiscretion but I am not sure it would have happened under some other coaches. Discuss.

Re: Hock : Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:59 pm  

Does anyone actually know what happened?

All I can gather from searching online was that he failed to attend training.

TBH, to be instantly kicked out, I was expecting him to have done a bit more.

[Bulliac]

Re: Hock : Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:21 pm  

Some people will always act like an idiot; it's just in their nature. This has been Hock's downfall all his career, irrespective who his coach happens to be[and he's had some semi-illustrious ones] at any given moment.

McNamara? Well he's not doing much about the sodding rain every day either, is he? Sack Him!

Re: Hock : Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:32 pm  

Statement from Hock http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/24641559 Seems that a number of players broke the 'No-alcohol' ban. Seems harsh that he's the only one reprimanded.

Statement from Hock http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/24641559 Seems that a number of players broke the 'No-alcohol' ban. Seems harsh that he's the only one reprimanded.

Re: Hock : Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:21 pm  

If all he did was have a few drinks then fail to show for a morning swim, and others did the same but only he was kicked out, then I'm also the reincarnation of Elvis Presley.

Re: Hock : Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:25 pm  

I'm afraid it's typical Hock response. He needs to man up & accept some responsibility. The others didn't miss training, he did, there is a difference. Not that I am impressed by the others. Perhaps SMc is trying to exert some authority.

Re: Hock : Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:34 pm  

I can imagine why McNamara didn't tell him in person!!

Tbf to SM, it's not a great message to the other players if you're allowed to be late for training. Not many players have chances to play internationally, and I feel his decision will have been made when he considers the professionalism of hock vs ferres. The fact that hock says he feels hard done to because 'it's only a swim and a medical' probably shows why he shouldn't be in the England squad. I remember speaking to Steve Menzies at that odsal BBQ, and asked how he was still playing like a 20 yr old. He said recovery is one of the most important aspects of being a pro sportsman, especially once you turn 30.

Re: Hock : Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:58 pm  

He contradicts himself, though, and other players didn't quite do the same as him.

"For missing a 10-minute swim - I think it's out of order really". "I agree that it was wrong and we shouldn't have had a drink, but there were six or seven of us and we all did the same thing". "That's the only thing that's happened and I only did the same as what the other lads did, apart from sleeping in for half an hour". ""A few of the boys went out for a few drinks and then went out for a bite to eat. We came back and I overslept. I missed a 10-minute swim and a 10-minute medical check-up."

From this, the others involved had a drink but didn't miss next morning's sessions. The rumours floating about suggest that those others involved will be dropped for Saturday, so we'll see.

Re: Hock : Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:00 pm  

Defended by Dr Cashcow..."I once went out with lads for few drinks, overslept in the morning, missed work, got fined but not sacked from my job."
Well, that's OK then... get the beers in Doc!

[Bullseye]

Re: Hock : Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:16 pm  

Makes no difference whether they went out for one pint or a gallon. No booze at all was the rule. That should be easy to understand.

Hock’s on thinner ice than the rest due to his past record (cocaine/gouging) and was the worst offender judging by the fact that he slept in. Hence he’s gone.

The rest made a bad mistake and showed themselves to be unprofessional. On the eve of the biggest tournament any of them have played in too. What numpties.

I wonder if many of the culprits contributed to the 1eague3 survey complaining about the lack of profile etc for the sport? If so I wonder if they’re happier now.

I remember Hanley once broke curfew under Reilly (it’s in Reilly’s biography) so it can happen to anyone.