Hooker? : Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:50 pm  

After a few pre-season games now who do we think should be the starting hooker? I suspect it will be Hallas but personally I would prefer Butterworth to be first choice. Hallas is a great clubman who runs his blood to water but to me lacks craft around the ruck. Halafihi also a great clubman who will play anywhere asked by his coach and give his all. Butterworth I feel has the guile, craft and speed around the ruck which the others don't. What do we think?

Re: Hooker? : Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:21 pm  

Hallas is a 45 tackle a game man.

Re: Hooker? : Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:34 pm  

Bulls4Champs wrote:

Hallas is a 45 tackle a game man.

I appreciate what you're saying and he is a great tackler but I would prefer a hooker with better attacking options. The PTB passing from Hallas on Friday was very slow and looping, allowing the defence time to be in the first receivers face on taking the ball. The passing from Butterworth is faster and flatter giving the receiver more time. Also Butterworth is not a bad tackler himself and is much quicker and direct when scooting from acting half.

Re: Hooker? : Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:39 pm  

Hallas starting Butterworth on the bench

Re: Hooker? : Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:41 pm  

Stockwell & Smales wrote:

I appreciate what you're saying and he is a great tackler but I would prefer a hooker with better attacking options. The PTB passing from Hallas on Friday was very slow and looping, allowing the defence time to be in the first receivers face on taking the ball. The passing from Butterworth is faster and flatter giving the receiver more time. Also Butterworth is not a bad tackler himself and is much quicker and direct when scooting from acting half.

It catch your drift. I appreciate a good distributor.

Re: Hooker? : Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:58 pm  

I think we've been a little spoiled these last few seasons in terms of hookers. First we had O' Brien and then Scott Moore - both very, very good hookers. Now we're left with Hallas, who I think is more of a LF than a hooker, and Butterworth who looks promising but is very young.
For this league our options are probably just about good enough but if we ever do manage to get back to the championship I think a new hooker will definitely need to be on our shopping list.

[Bulliac]

Re: Hooker? : Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:10 pm  

Nothus wrote:

I think we've been a little spoiled these last few seasons in terms of hookers. First we had O' Brien and then Scott Moore - both very, very good hookers. Now we're left with Hallas, who I think is more of a LF than a hooker, and Butterworth who looks promising but is very young.
For this league our options are probably just about good enough but if we ever do manage to get back to the championship I think a new hooker will definitely need to be on our shopping list.

Unless young Butterworth gets sufficient game time to develop into the player he appears to be capable of developing into. In a couple of years he has every chance of being a first team regular.

Re: Hooker? : Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:18 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

Unless young Butterworth gets sufficient game time to develop into the player he appears to be capable of developing into. In a couple of years he has every chance of being a first team regular.

Definitely. We could do with someone at the back end of their career for Butterworth to be understudy to in the meantime.

Re: Hooker? : Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:32 pm  

Is he a hooker or a half back?

Re: Hooker? : Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:35 pm  

Bulls4Champs wrote:

Is he a hooker or a half back?

Is there a great deal of difference nowadays?

To me a modern day hooker is just a half who can tackle.

Saying that, I've seen Butterworth play both and I think he looked just as handy in both positions. Which to me makes him the perfect interchange player this season to allow him some game time without too much pressure, but he covers both halves as well as hooker (and technically loose forward too as Hallas could move there).