[Bullseye]

: Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:32 pm  

Wigan Bull wrote:

What's the RFL directive on this?

Dear Touchie

Here's a nice new orange uniform. Wear this and then run up and down looking as important as possible without interfering in the game.

Regards

Richard Lewis

P.S. Apologies to the ginner touchie who has to wear this outfit but just think of how coordinated you'll look.

: Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:42 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Dear Touchie

Here's a nice new orange uniform. Wear this and then run up and down looking as important as possible without interfering in the game.

Regards

Richard Lewis

P.S. Apologies to the ginner touchie who has to wear this outfit but just think of how coordinated you'll look.

: Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:51 pm  

TBH there's no team in the league who doesn't get away with forward passes. It's just one of those things that evens it's self out over the course of a season.

Yes it's frustrating when you lose a game to it, but tbh you wouldn't be complaining if it went the other way

: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:00 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

It's all relative to the camera angle so really difficult to judge.

Difficult but not always impossible. Certainly there are instances when knock ons and off sides are equally difficult. I dont agree with a blanket ban, I dont accept that its never possible for a VR to be able to rule on a forward pass, last weeks try by JJB being a good example. I'd let the ref at least consult the VR, with the proviso that, unless the VR is 100% happy with the view he gets, he reverts back to the refs/linesmen's decision.

: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:09 pm  

Cibaman wrote:

Difficult but not always impossible. Certainly there are instances when knock ons and off sides are equally difficult. I dont agree with a blanket ban, I dont accept that its never possible for a VR to be able to rule on a forward pass, last weeks try by JJB being a good example. I'd let the ref at least consult the VR, with the proviso that, unless the VR is 100% happy with the view he gets, he reverts back to the refs/linesmen's decision.

And what about the last Leeds "No try", with a knock on being ruled.....how could they have deemed this had gone forward if cameras shouldn't be used?!

: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:15 pm  

Wigan Bull wrote:

And what about the last Leeds "No try", with a knock on being ruled.....how could they have deemed this had gone forward if cameras shouldn't be used?!

How could they have deemed the ball went forward off Mick Withers' hand to Leon at OT a few years back,even though he swears he never touched the ball, if cameras had not been used?

Oh hang on...

[Bulliac]

: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:14 pm  

Cibaman wrote:

Difficult but not always impossible. Certainly there are instances when knock ons and off sides are equally difficult. I dont agree with a blanket ban, I dont accept that its never possible for a VR to be able to rule on a forward pass, last weeks try by JJB being a good example. I'd let the ref at least consult the VR, with the proviso that, unless the VR is 100% happy with the view he gets, he reverts back to the refs/linesmen's decision.

I think all of that is a fair point. If we accept that referees usually look at a player`s hands (if the hands are facing backwards then the ball must have been passed backwards........) rather than the ground when making the decision then, so far as I can tell, the video shows hands as well as it shows anything else so it must be a useful tool.

: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:19 pm  

The video ref's struggle to get decisions right already. Let's not give them more opportunities to make a balls up!!

I'd be more willing to support taking away responsibilities of a video ref!!

: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:28 pm  

Cibaman wrote:

Difficult but not always impossible. Certainly there are instances when knock ons and off sides are equally difficult. I dont agree with a blanket ban, I dont accept that its never possible for a VR to be able to rule on a forward pass, last weeks try by JJB being a good example. I'd let the ref at least consult the VR, with the proviso that, unless the VR is 100% happy with the view he gets, he reverts back to the refs/linesmen's decision.

If the receiving player is a yard in front of the passer, its usually a good indication. Or is that the momentum rule?

: Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:09 pm  

The only way a video ref could possibly rule on forward passes is if the pitch was lined every meter the full length of the pitch.