[Bulliac]

: Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:13 pm  

redeverready wrote:

It's all well and good laying foundations but it's results at first team level that keeps the club afloat and too many people are forgetting this.

I think you`re right to the extent that a lot of fans DO look at it at this level, ie the first team were rubbish last week so I`m not going this week. Obviously if a certain level of support drifts away (however short sighted the more diehard may regard them to be) then this does cause a very serous problem for the club. After all most fans only watch the first team so they can`t ignore it.

The problem is that you can`t build anything without solid foundations or the whole edifice comes tumbling down which (and I`m trying to read between the lines and might be getting it a bit wrong here) seems to be what Mr Hood thinks has happened to the club a year or so ago when Nobby and the chief exec left, followed fairly quickly by a few of the higher paid players .


I`m not really qualified to judge whether or not the previous management took their eyes off the ball or not, but clearly there is a balance to be struck and it seems the current management feel there is a need to address problems around junior development for example (and I do seem to remember the juniors being made part time a few years ago as a cost cutting exercise) so maybe it did swing a bit too much one way, though I`ll readily admit I wasn`t arguing when we were winning all the trophies.

As for Morro taking over it`s far too early in his career to take on a senior post like that,

: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:43 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

I think you`re right to the extent that a lot of fans DO look at it at this level, ie the first team were rubbish last week so I`m not going this week. Obviously if a certain level of support drifts away (however short sighted the more diehard may regard them to be) then this does cause a very serous problem for the club. After all most fans only watch the first team so they can`t ignore it.

The problem is that you can`t build anything without solid foundations or the whole edifice comes tumbling down which (and I`m trying to read between the lines and might be getting it a bit wrong here) seems to be what Mr Hood thinks has happened to the club a year or so ago when Nobby and the chief exec left, followed fairly quickly by a few of the higher paid players .


I`m not really qualified to judge whether or not the previous management took their eyes off the ball or not, but clearly there is a balance to be struck and it seems the current management feel there is a need to address problems around junior development for example (and I do seem to remember the juniors being made part time a few years ago as a cost cutting exercise) so maybe it did swing a bit too much one way, though I`ll readily admit I wasn`t arguing when we were winning all the trophies.

As for Morro taking over it`s far too early in his career to take on a senior post like that,

But if the money starts to dry up the rebuilding stops and which ever way you look at it it's the first team that generates the money for the club.

: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:45 pm  

Trimalchio wrote:

I thought Hood was on record of saying that success this season was a good run in the play-offs, implying there would be changes if this does not happen?

In any case, perhaps any new coach would be best not promoted from within this time - a breath of fresh air and a new perspective is probably needed if Bradford don't make the play-offs.

Absolutely. The best thing to do when you've spent 2 years building a totally new system to provide a future squad from the club's own system is to get rid of the team which built it and hire someone totally different to start all over again.

: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:47 pm  

AndreaB wrote:

Absolutely. The best thing to do when you've spent 2 years building a totally new system to provide a future squad from the club's own system is to get rid of the team which built it and hire someone totally different to start all over again.

Why would it start all over again as the systems would still be in place.

: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:49 pm  

redeverready wrote:

But if the money starts to dry up the rebuilding stops and which ever way you look at it it's the first team that generates the money for the club.

But I thought the message from Hood was that the financial foundations are currently sound?

: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:52 pm  

Trimalchio wrote:

But I thought the message from Hood was that the financial foundations are currently sound?

They are. It was more in response to if things don't pick up or slide any further.

: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:58 pm  

redeverready wrote:

Why would it start all over again as the systems would still be in place.

But the bloke who's decided to incorporate the systems would be out on his ear, which wouldn't do much for the happiness of people like Paul Medley, and the squad members like Sam Burgess and Andy Lynch who've signed because of whats going on at the place at the moment.

Sacking Macca should be the last thing the club consider at this moment in time. Like Medders said last week, under Noble he was just operating a quick fix at the top and the whole thing collapsed, leaving Macca to take the full force of it.

I'd much rather settle for a couple of years in the lower ebbs for a sustained period at the top (Leeds anyone, with 10 home grown players in their last GF winning squad?)

: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:13 pm  

AaronBull wrote:

But the bloke who's decided to incorporate the systems would be out on his ear, which wouldn't do much for the happiness of people like Paul Medley, and the squad members like Sam Burgess and Andy Lynch who've signed because of whats going on at the place at the moment.

Sacking Macca should be the last thing the club consider at this moment in time. Like Medders said last week, under Noble he was just operating a quick fix at the top and the whole thing collapsed, leaving Macca to take the full force of it.

I'd much rather settle for a couple of years in the lower ebbs for a sustained period at the top (Leeds anyone, with 10 home grown players in their last GF winning squad?)

exactly.
We do not have the money to both spend to capacity on short term fixes and for the long term. Very few clubs do.

: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:45 pm  

From player to Head Coach in one move is very unlikely.

: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:49 pm  

If (and there are a lot of ifs) it was possible, then I wouldn't mind our normal "rolling" career progression from within, it has served us very well. Morrison could be a candidate for one of the secondary coaching posts and from what i've seen and heard of him, he should go well. maybe in years to come Assistant to the Head coach? (a la Noble?)