Re: Big Congratulations in Order : Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:55 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

Not in the England side because, yeah, when he's good he's good, but the reverse of that is when he's bad he's nondescript. Plus we have better, and more consistent, players available.

who?

Re: Big Congratulations in Order : Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:04 pm  

Danny Brough

With him been named Man of Steel that would suggest he's bang in form,he should of been in the squad from day one,instead we will have a kiwi,who is obviously talented,but who will run up his own booty more often than not.Nobody will know what he's gonna attempt to do and the kiwis and Aussies will smash him all day long

Big mistake

Re: Big Congratulations in Order : Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:45 am  

madasmcmadammcmad2 wrote:

who?

Indeed. I am intrigued to see who Bulliac has in mind here.

Re: Big Congratulations in Order : Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:00 am  

Congratulations Danny Brough and Paul Anderson and other Winners.

[Bulliac]

Re: Big Congratulations in Order : Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:07 am  

madasmcmadammcmad2 wrote:

who?

I wouldn't argue with the two incumbents, Burrow and Sinfield. They've both had injury problems but have come back OK and you pretty much know what you're going to get with them. They also come with the added advantage of being a club pairing, which means they already know each other's game. With the sort of pack we seem to be putting together they have the class to really dominate games imo.

I'd definitely have Gareth Widdop in front of Brough too.

Re: Big Congratulations in Order : Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:12 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

Not in the England side because, yeah, when he's good he's good, but the reverse of that is when he's bad he's nondescript. Plus we have better, and more consistent, players available.

But that's the accusation laid at all great players; if their team isn't dominant it's their fault. When mediocre players are mediocre it's because the forwards haven't laid the platform. Brough is only playing 6 to accommodate Robinson at 7, Brough is the best scrum half in this country by a million miles. If O'Loughlin is fit I presume Sinfield will be 6, with Chase at 7, though I'm not sure where Widdop fits into that equation.

Re: Big Congratulations in Order : Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:06 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

I wouldn't argue with the two incumbents, Burrow and Sinfield. They've both had injury problems but have come back OK and you pretty much know what you're going to get with them. They also come with the added advantage of being a club pairing, which means they already know each other's game. With the sort of pack we seem to be putting together they have the class to really dominate games imo.

I'd definitely have Gareth Widdop in front of Brough too.

I like Burrow(pace) and Sinfield(vision-kicking game),but I am a great believer in playing half backs at half back,so Sinfield would be loose forward in my team.But I am afraid I would still put an in form Danny Brough at half back as he adds zip/pace/vision/kicking game to the middle of the park and we have had years of playing our loose forward at stand off against the Aussies and it hasn't worked then,so why should it work now as we lose PACE in the middle by following that route.We should be able to compete up front with such as the Burgess's playing regular NRL week in week out and we have Tomkins steaming in from full back so IMO we need regular half backs to knit this lot together and Brough would have been great.To not even be in the squad is a HUGE mistake imo.I just hope we ain't counting the cost later on in then tournament.

Re: Big Congratulations in Order : Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:21 pm  

madasmcmadammcmad2 wrote:

but I am a great believer in playing half backs at half back,so Sinfield would be loose forward in my team

You're a great believer in playing half backs at half back, so you'd play a half back at Loose Forward? That makes sense.


This argument that Sinfield is a loose forward hasn't held water for ages. He's played 6 for Leeds for years now. In fact, it's probably a long time since he's even played loose forward. And yet those who say he shouldn't be picked out of position, all want him playing there. Think more people need to pay attention to where people actually play at club level rather than just the number on their back.

Re: Big Congratulations in Order : Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:45 pm  

HamsterChops wrote:

You're a great believer in playing half backs at half back, so you'd play a half back at Loose Forward? That makes sense.


This argument that Sinfield is a loose forward hasn't held water for ages. He's played 6 for Leeds for years now. In fact, it's probably a long time since he's even played loose forward. And yet those who say he shouldn't be picked out of position, all want him playing there. Think more people need to pay attention to where people actually play at club level rather than just the number on their back.

Incorrect,

where do you think Danny Maguire has been playing?Sinfield plays stand off when Maguire has been injured.Sinfield always was a loose forward first and foremost.IMO he hasn't the speed to play at Test stand off.

Re: Big Congratulations in Order : Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:24 pm  

madasmcmadammcmad2 wrote:

Incorrect,

where do you think Danny Maguire has been playing?Sinfield plays stand off when Maguire has been injured.Sinfield always was a loose forward first and foremost.IMO he hasn't the speed to play at Test stand off.

Danny McGuire plays at 7 (although 6 and 7 are essentially interchangeable these days), so Sinfield & McGuire play both really. Rob Burrow plays hooker almost every week (at least when everyone is fit anyway).

Sinfield has played a little hooker this year, but only a little (while Sutcliffe was in the halves with Burrow). He has played absolutely no loose forward. HTH.