Re: Forwarded!!! : Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:30 am  

Bullnorthern wrote:

I am not tempted to stop watching the game but tend to agree with Broady. Constant repetition of the same cry is tedious. It annoyed me when the Saints fans were notorious for the same monotonous barrack and it annoys me now. .

You guys are starting to wake up to the fact that it's what your ground has become known for.
From the first minute,the cry goes up.
FORWARD PASS
It's become a reason not to go to the game.
Refs won't take any notice,now they know it's so constant.
I didn't go last night,but the last time I was there,it was constant,like toothache .
There may have been forward passes last night,and last season,but there's nothing to suggest the ref makes the number of mistakes that you guys claim,or that it's just against your team.
In reality,I couldn't really care less but you do need to know that it's what you've become known for .

[Bulliac]

Re: Forwarded!!! : Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:35 am  

Bonita Red wrote:

You guys are starting to wake up to the fact that it's what your ground has become known for.
From the first minute,the cry goes up.
FORWARD PASS
It's become a reason not to go to the game.
Refs won't take any notice,now they know it's so constant.
I didn't go last night,but the last time I was there,it was constant,like toothache .
There may have been forward passes last night,and last season,but there's nothing to suggest the ref makes the number of mistakes that you guys claim,or that it's just against your team.
In reality,I couldn't really care less but you do need to know that it's what you've become known for .

Shucks - we didn't know that! Wow, no really, WOW, WE thought it was everywhere else........

Re: Forwarded!!! : Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:15 am  

That's the attitude !

Re: Forwarded!!! : Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:58 am  

There was me thinking Odsal was known for a crap view and no roof!

Re: Forwarded!!! : Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:51 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

I've never been a lover of the "let it go - it's good enough", policy. It 's the same with the play the ball and 'straying' offside, and as soon as you start letting things slide the players just take the P further and further.

Nor, before anyone mentions it, do I accept that playing to the rules kills the game: they are professionals and they cheat [cos that's what forward passes and not playing the ball correctly are] only because they feel comfortable that they will get away with it, because there is an advantage to be gained and if they don't then the opposition will.

If referees pull up ALL forward passes and incorrect PTBs, then pro players will perceive no advantage and think far more carefully about doing it. Of course, there will always be inadvertent forward passes [and sloppy PTBs and occasional offsides] but they will be enormously reduced if the refs were to stamp on it with a firm hand...

But that would require some match officials that had 2 working eyes and a pair of gonads.

Re: Forwarded!!! : Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:42 pm  

Bonita Red wrote:

You guys are starting to wake up to the fact that it's what your ground has become known for.

We're really not.

Bonita Red wrote:

From the first minute,the cry goes up.

It really doesn't. This is not to say it doesn't happen, but in general, there are several places I go to where you are more likely to hear forward shouts, I'd say Wakey is probably the worst. Leeds are on the refs back a lot too. But in reality it is pretty normal fan behaviour. Especially by home teams getting beat.

Bonita Red wrote:

It's become a reason not to go to the game.

If for whatever reason you don't go to a game, so what? Free country and all that. Personally it sounds like a very thin veneer over other proper reasons but hey.

Bonita Red wrote:

Refs won't take any notice,

I think actually it is very well documented, and anyway just common sense, that refs, being human, are susceptible to pressure. They of course try to resist it but whilst pressurising the officials in our game is not within a million miles of - say - European Champions League soccer, where it is an actual art that people are trained in, and where crowds pathologically disagree with the most blatantly correct decisions if against their team, it happens in all sports simply because there is a point to it, to put pressure on an official, and we all know that, to varying extents, it is bound to have an effect.

Bonita Red wrote:

I didn't go last night but

You don't say!

Bonita Red wrote:

...the last time I was there,it was constant,like toothache .
There may have been forward passes last night,and last season,

Interesting. So the crowd shouted "FORWARD" non-stop for 80 minutes of play. Even the 40 or so minutes when we had the ball. Actually, I don't believe you and suggest you are talking patent bollox.

Bonita Red wrote:

but there's nothing to suggest the ref makes the number of mistakes that you guys claim,or that it's just against your team.

Translation: "My opinion is different from your opinion", and actually nobody said it's "just against our team".

Bonita Red wrote:

In reality,I couldn't really care less

So you both "couldn't care less" - AND at the same time care so much that it actually stops you from going to a game where the team you support is playing!

Re: Forwarded!!! : Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:14 pm  

Neat dissection.
You really are oblivious to the main point but,as you say,you can't do anything about the roof either

Re: Forwarded!!! : Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:03 pm  

It is pretty ironic, coming as it does from fans of the team that benefitted so greatly from the gridiron throws of the Paul brothers aka 'flat passes'.

FWIW I think Widnes fans are even worse, and they top it off with their childish 'get into 'em' chants

Re: Forwarded!!! : Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:28 pm  

Bonita Red wrote:

Neat dissection.
You really are oblivious to the main point but,as you say,you can't do anything about the roof either

I have seen games at Odsal where the shouts of forward was very few, which was probably because the ref. had spotted them early on in the game.
Plus my friend if you don't go to games because of this..how do you know it actually happens? Also if it happens with your team, perhaps that says more about the the actual number of these types of passes from your players?

Strange reasoning for not being in attendance??

Re: Forwarded!!! : Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:33 pm  

It wasn't the reason I didn't go on Friday but my point was that it's becoming a distraction, and a reason not to go.
Your mates on this forum accept that you're known for it.
The last 3 times I went to a match at Odsal it was madness,every pass was called forward,from the terrace opposite the main stand.
I agree it's not the biggest deal in the world,but please don't be in denial.
That's the way it is at Odsal.