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Re: Kick offs : Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:50 am  
Rather depends on whether you touch it or not.
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Re: Kick offs : Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:13 pm  
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If it didn't bounce it would be a penalty.


:THINK:

Whatt?

A kick off HAS to "bounce" ... or else it's a penalty?

Maybe the 95% kickoffs I see that don't bounce (cos they are caught on the full) aren't transmitted to Ilkley, I suppose.
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Re: Kick offs : Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:33 pm  
If the coaching staff cant get a grip of this it's all over...o it is
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Re: Kick offs : Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:46 am  
To be honest, with regard to the kick offs, it depends more on the players getting a grip on the ball.

Professional players shouldn't need to be coached in how to catch the ball, or indeed the importance of catching it, that really should be done, as mentioned previously, in the under eights.

To be honest, I'm certain they can all catch a ball - whether they have the confidence to catch it or are frightened of making mistakes is maybe another. matter.
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Re: Kick offs : Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:14 am  
If i see a player get under a ball, in a reasonable position, but then spill it cos he's shiting bricks, then I can accept he may have lost his confidence.

But when i see a kick-off find its way dead, with mystified players looking at each other as to how did that happen, then it is not a confidence issue, it is a crap play issue.

I am not saying a brilliant kick or a swirling wind or a freak bounce can't catch a team out but when none of the above apply then it is just a cockup, and it isn't lack of confidence, it is to me players just not doing their job. For whatever reason.

Kicking the ball dead from kickoffs is slightly different, it is trying too hard to do a killer kick, basically aiming the ball to land in a narrow gap within centimetres of dead. It is a high risk strategy and, even by the law of averages, you will get 50% of such efforts one side of the line or other. Given that even if you do get the ball "on target", there is still every chance a defender will catch it in play, or catch it with a foot dead, it seems to me to be too high risk a strategy to bother with.

And all that apart, can anyone remember the last time we tried one of these and it paid off? I can't.
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Re: Kick offs : Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:18 am  
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And all that apart, can anyone remember the last time we tried one of these and it paid off? I can't.


I don't think we've tried an awkward kick-off all season. All of our kick-offs go harmlessly to the scrum half or whoever is directly under it.
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Re: Kick offs : Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:22 am  
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I don't think we've tried an awkward kick-off all season. All of our kick-offs go harmlessly to the scrum half or whoever is directly under it.


Why were these scrum halves often standing in the crowd behind the posts?
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Re: Kick offs : Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:53 am  
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Why were these scrum halves often standing in the crowd behind the posts?


I mean all of our kick-offs are same - just kicking to the same area of the pitch all the time.
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Re: Kick offs : Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:59 am  
But they're not, they are much more exciting than anyone else's kickoffs as we all wait with bated breath as to whether or not we can manage enough precision to land the ball within the available 2500 sq.m.
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Re: Kick offs : Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:06 pm  
our kick offs against Huddersfield at Odsal seemed to keep them guessing. maybe it was just them?
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