Re: The Rat Pack. Or frankly, any pack ... : Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:16 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

Simples!

** cuts out the two teams **

Rubbish Francis, I've proved you can have a perfectly good line up if you jut play players IN THEIR POSITIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hope I'm proved wrong but I expect another defeat!

I could not agree more

You've totally nailed the fact that we can actually field a perfectly serviceable team if only Cummins would stop playing people out of their positions - an experiment that has not worked out at all.

I do not want to see Chev Walker at prop when we have Sidlow, Manu, Fakir and Baldwinson, before even get to Bates. There is simply no reason - other than the nagging 'we were mates at Leeds' argument...

Re: The Rat Pack. Or frankly, any pack ... : Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:21 pm  

Chev will play. Unless injured. there's no doubting that. He's been playing at prop and I respect him for putting his hand up to play prop, but he's not effective there.

If he dusted off his (long ago) instincts from playing many years at centre, I think he could be an effective 13. Decent size, power (just not enough for prop),pace (not enough for centre anymore), handling skills. He's got the number on his back, why not give him a run at that position?

Re: The Rat Pack. Or frankly, any pack ... : Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:03 pm  

I don't get understand the criticism of Chev Walker or FC for playing him at Prop to be honest. I'm sure given the choice FC wouldn't be picking Chev to play at Prop where he is clearly not best suited. The other options suggested are playing an inexperienced back row forward there or an 18 year old Prop who clearly isn't physically ready to be playing SL every week.

We simply don't have enough middle men at the club and I don't see either of the above options as improvements to our front row. I suspect Chev is getting the nod because he is one of the senior players who some of the young players look up to.

Re: The Rat Pack. Or frankly, any pack ... : Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:05 pm  

I can't knock Bates for effort but the hard fact is that he is nowhere near big enough to play prop.
He got absolutely mullered every time he took the ball in against Wire.

Re: The Rat Pack. Or frankly, any pack ... : Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:14 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

I don't get understand the criticism of Chev Walker or FC for playing him at Prop to be honest. I'm sure given the choice FC wouldn't be picking Chev to play at Prop where he is clearly not best suited. The other options suggested are playing an inexperienced back row forward there or an 18 year old Prop who clearly isn't physically ready to be playing SL every week.

We simply don't have enough middle men at the club and I don't see either of the above options as improvements to our front row. I suspect Chev is getting the nod because he is one of the senior players who some of the young players look up to.

The problem is that even if the younger players respect any other Player as you state..WE STILL AINT WINNING!

Re: The Rat Pack. Or frankly, any pack ... : Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:21 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Hot on the news of Kaufusi leaving, we now have a 1 match ban for Pitts, who's been charged with a dangerous throw and taken an early guilty plea.

Solutions on a postcard please as to how we can stem our haemmorhaging of pack members and if not, who on earth we can play in the pack against Salford. In fact, cancel that, volunteers from any planet may apply

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I suppose if FC played Kear at FB Foster back on the wing and Gaskell at Stand Off, we would have Addy and Ferguson if back? plenty to cover the problem, but Pitts is a significant loss as is kaufusi.

is that about postcard size?

Re: The Rat Pack. Or frankly, any pack ... : Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:29 pm  

Northus/Bully, Bates has played better than Walker at
Prop. Yes he got a bit of a battering, but he got stuck in and kept coming back for more. He played well
Against Wire.

Walker never busts a tackle, doesn't make any metres and was shot after 15mins against Wire (the first try we conceded was down to him) I respect him for putting his hand up, but he's isn't a prop.

You say Cummins has no choice but he does! When we played the younger players we beat Wire!! Rest of games when we've played the senior players, we're not just losing, we're getting smashed.

That's just one position though, what about playing our stand off at FB, a second rower at stand off and having a back on the bench!!??

Re: The Rat Pack. Or frankly, any pack ... : Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:36 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

But I expect an absolutely stupid inbalanced line up of

Gaskell
George
Arundel
Purtell
Kear

Addy
Gale

Sidlow
Diskin
Chev "the wrecking ball" Walker
Olbison
Purtell
Donno

O'brien
Fakir
Nas
Henry

"we tried doing the x-factor play


Rubbish Francis, I've proved you can have a perfectly good line up if you jut play players IN THEIR POSITIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hope I'm proved wrong but I expect another defeat!

Re: The Rat Pack. Or frankly, any pack ... : Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:33 am  

Nothus wrote:

I can't knock Bates for effort but the hard fact is that he is nowhere near big enough to play prop.
He got absolutely mullered every time he took the ball in against Wire.

Are you saying Bates hasn't mastered that position yet?

Re: The Rat Pack. Or frankly, any pack ... : Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:32 am  

tigertot wrote:

Are you saying Bates hasn't mastered that position yet?

Well I'm not. Master Bates in the front row. It's what we're used to.