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Re: Don't the players realise : Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:49 pm  
ME is just a sad troll who is fixated on some delusion that he's some modern day Nostradamus. It is a bit of a shame that he (proudly) sees an opportunity in our current plight to re-post the same post he has been making since whenever, with just a few words moved about. The thing is, it is all bullshit. Nobody would ever or has learned anything useful about our club from ME nor, as he is based a hundred miles away and never comes near, could they. He's the archetypal keyboard warrior, all mouth and never anything constructive.

Paul medley was mentioned in particular. Medley put many years of his life into the club and has been one of our most illustrious servants, from player to the youth setup, and he so far s i am concerned, and even with the benefit of hindsight, meant every word he said to the meetings at which he spoke and which I attended. Singling him out as a liar and some sort of charlatan is pretty low.

Finally we have had such a complex chain of different people, differnet companies, different evets, new situations, etc. serially happening over several years, each of which has played and does play some part in getting to where we are now. If it makes ME happy to delude himself that he "called it" as he loves claiming then fine, yes, if we all agree you called whatever it was whenever you called it, and you are such a great person for having called it, the Oracle of Dundee, will you finally change the record? If we all agree that, if we had only listened to whatever it is you think you were telling everybody, then we could and would have "done something unspecified about it" and been champions every year, will you stick yourslef a virtual gold star on your prophet of doom sheet and close the book?

Here's a tip, think hard, take a few days off, and try to come up with your debut constructive suggestion for the club. Instead of having your thousandth go at the fans who actually perennially support the club, plus trying to perpetuate your own childish little personal scores. It's pathetic and so boring, you wouldn't believe.
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Re: Don't the players realise : Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:09 pm  
Some questions :-

When Northern went bust (1964 ish) what were the average attendances?

I know the record low crowd was 324 against Barrow but interested in the average.

When Northern resurfaced with a new set up - what increases were apparent please?

If the Bulls move into CC where do you feel they will play home games?
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Re: Don't the players realise : Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:26 pm  
Found these average attendance figures elsewhere on the site:

1945-1946 = 7475
1946-1947 = 10,428
1947-1948 = 14,751
1948-1949 = 14,560
1949-1950 = 14,765
1950-1951 = 16,725
1951-1952 = 17,820
1952-1953 = 16,862
1953-1954 = 13,124
1954-1955 = 9006
1955-1956 = 6911
1956-1957 = 5986
1957-1958 = 5126
1958-1959 = 3935
1959-1960 = 2962
1960-1961 = 1857
1961-1962 = 1495
1962-1963 = 1257
1963-1964 = 1020 *average attendance after 11 games
1964-1965 = 7332

As for home games, I personally would like to see Odsal die and for us to play somewhere small (15k capacity?) but modern, hopefully paid for out of some Odsal selling related jiggery pokery. I'm not going to pretend that I understand how the various freeholds and leaseholds would all fit together to leave a pot of money for that to be built, but I can't see another way that Bradford having a viable home is possible. I am emotionally attached to Odsal but it seems to be that shiny, slightly non-atmospheric stadia attached to retail parks or supermarkets are the future, and I'd like Bradford to exist in the future too.
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Re: Don't the players realise : Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:31 pm  
Thanks very much Ridler
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Re: Don't the players realise : Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:29 pm  
Having said what I have about moving to a pokey stadium attached to a retail park, this piece of high quality bespoke analysis may indicate something else is needed. Putting the time series next to each other in order to compare our current state with our 1960s flirtation with oblivion, we find historically, after hitting our low point, the next season we see our attendances increasing by a factor of ~7. I suggest we should borrow heavily and get building NOW in order to accomodate our enormous fanbase in the championship/SL2. :CHEF:

Oh, I can't post images. Here is a link to my big data driven, laser-guided, crowd sourced analytics:

http://tinypic.com/r/214nvyp/8
Having said what I have about moving to a pokey stadium attached to a retail park, this piece of high quality bespoke analysis may indicate something else is needed. Putting the time series next to each other in order to compare our current state with our 1960s flirtation with oblivion, we find historically, after hitting our low point, the next season we see our attendances increasing by a factor of ~7. I suggest we should borrow heavily and get building NOW in order to accomodate our enormous fanbase in the championship/SL2. :CHEF:

Oh, I can't post images. Here is a link to my big data driven, laser-guided, crowd sourced analytics:

http://tinypic.com/r/214nvyp/8
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Re: Don't the players realise : Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:44 pm  
Don’t confuse the thousands of supporters who follow the Bulls but don’t ever go on this or other forums. There are people who spend many hours a day on here and other forums who must believe they own the forum and the people on here are the only fans that matter. They are not. There are just a tiny number of fans come on here spouting their opinions. The club would manage quite nicely without them as the other thousands will keep it going.

Some people state they saw everything coming. But other than coming on here and having a go at other people on here what did they actually do about it as spouting off on here won’t solve anything up at Odsal. There have been some people up at Odsal who should never have been allowed in through the gate but blackening the name of Paul Medley is disgraceful and now means that I and other should not ever read a post from that fool.

Just remember everyone, we are just a handful of posters from thousands of fans. We won’t make any difference to what Mr Green and the club does in the future unless some of us buy into the club and do something. That won’t happen though, will it, as it is just that little bit easier for one or two on here to hide behind your computer for many hours per day giving your opinions and slagging each other off.
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Re: Don't the players realise : Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:43 pm  
Fans don't have any say, in all truth. Never did have, and never will. We turn up, pay our admission and stand on the sidelines, shaking an impotent fist at the directors box. Some of us are grown up enough to understand this and some aren't.

If a sufficient number were to stop paying on the gate, and carry it on for a significant period, it may bring down the board, or it may not. If the board resigns it only means another board is appointed, over which we still have no control. A few fans have been known to buy shares when they become available, but sadly, buying a few shares may make you feel you have some influence, but unless the competing parties at board level are very, very closely tied, this is purely illusory.

We, as individuals, go to games or we don't, that's one thing we can control. We usually remain far too tied up in 'our team' to even make rational decisions about that. It's no good asking the board to do what the fans want anyway, as other than wanting success, we mostly all believe in different ways of achieving this goal.
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Re: Don't the players realise : Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:32 am  
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Paul medley was mentioned in particular. Medley put many years of his life into the club and has been one of our most illustrious servants, from player to the youth setup, and he so far s i am concerned, and even with the benefit of hindsight, meant every word he said to the meetings at which he spoke and which I attended. Singling him out as a liar and some sort of charlatan is pretty low.



I never said at any time that he was a liar or a charlatan FA, so please stop making things up. I do wonder why you, and others persist on doing this?

Remember back to the stirring speech he made - Churchillian even. We would fight them at Cougar Park, we will fight them at The Shay, we will fight them at the Leigh Sporting Village.

Over the years it has been embarrassing that supposedly intelligent people have been taken in. I mean, it must hurt quite a bit? Not only have these people run the club into the ground, but they have made utter mugs of the people who line their pockets in doing so.

Now, as it all unravels, people blame the RFL. There is supporting a team, and there is also a total inability to see the obvious. It is also bemusing that so many people, who seem to think that they are "in the know" can all be so spectacularly wrong?
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Re: Don't the players realise : Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:47 am  
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I never said at any time that he was a liar or a charlatan FA, so please stop making things up. I do wonder why you, and others persist on doing this?

Remember back to the stirring speech he made - Churchillian even. We would fight them at Cougar Park, we will fight them at The Shay, we will fight them at the Leigh Sporting Village.

Over the years it has been embarrassing that supposedly intelligent people have been taken in. I mean, it must hurt quite a bit? Not only have these people run the club into the ground, but they have made utter mugs of the people who line their pockets in doing so.

Now, as it all unravels, people blame the RFL. There is supporting a team, and there is also a total inability to see the obvious. It is also bemusing that so many people, who seem to think that they are "in the know" can all be so spectacularly wrong?

Look at your previous post which referred to Paul Medley. I agree you did not call him a liar or a charlatan. But you did ridicule him and as usual characterised Bulls fans as easily led numptys. We are so different than the insightful seer from north of the border, always right and always thinking the worst of people. And so different from those fans who actually put something into the club
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Re: Don't the players realise : Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:52 am  
He knows full well what he did, but there's no point in even telling him, he's in full-on "twist" mode, and also has his "make hyperbolic generic unprovable insult" button stuck. The latter generates utterly meaningless pomposities like " so many people, who seem to think that they are "in the know" can all be so spectacularly wrong", but which has a hugely self-righteous, congratulatory tone to it and so it self-feeds McNostradamus's delusion that he is a seer and a visionary who "called it".

His next trick will be to quote something from the above and reverse the claim, in fifth-form "wit" style.
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