Re: Next Season : Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:33 am  

Starbug wrote:

Thats current season, next year its 900 K with you and London getting 700k parachute payment

That's one of the numbers doing the rounds, but no one seems to know for certain as I've seen people quote £900k, £950k and £1.2 Million.

And even with that being the case, this illusion promotion and relegation is still a farcical idea. Half the salary cap, but still expected to compete at the end of the season against teams who can spend double? Not going to happen.

Once Bradford and London are officially relegated, then that's it. The teams in SL wiill not change until the next time the rules do.

Re: Next Season : Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:02 am  

roofaldo2 wrote:

That's one of the numbers doing the rounds, but no one seems to know for certain as I've seen people quote £900k, £950k and £1.2 Million.

And even with that being the case, this illusion promotion and relegation is still a farcical idea. Half the salary cap, but still expected to compete at the end of the season against teams who can spend double? Not going to happen.

Once Bradford and London are officially relegated, then that's it. The teams in SL wiill not change until the next time the rules do.

You mean like the Leeds Leigh match in the Challenge cup?

Ultimatly it will come down to a 1 game play off between a SL team that has lost most of its games and a Championship Club that has won most of its games

Now if you are that sure that Bradford are that poor and will remain so ' forever ' you dont deserve to get back

Re: Next Season : Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:31 am  

ultimately it comes down contrived and manufactured 'jeopardy'. So confident in the ability of the lower leagues to compete they have needed to introduce a one off game in the hope that a lower league team can win one game against a team which has likely already beaten them.

They may aswell give the lower league teams a head start or just start that game at Golden Point. We can have jeopardy on jeopardy.

Re: Next Season : Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:04 am  

Starbug wrote:

You mean like the Leeds Leigh match in the Challenge cup?

Remind me, who won that match?

It's not a question of being able to get promotion due to being poor, it's a question of an uneven playing field meaning the deck is heavily stacked against ANY Championship club being able to gain access to Super League under this foolish system

[Bulliac]

Re: Next Season : Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:27 am  

Starbug wrote:

You mean like the Leeds Leigh match in the Challenge cup?

It's always possible for a 'lower', or less well funded, team to get themselves worked into a frenzy over a 'one off' cup game, but even though this is perfectly true, how often, in recent history, has a lower league team beaten a fully pro side in any cup game? Even when the better team goes into the game with the wrong attitude, as Leeds clearly did - whatever the coach says - it truly is beyond being even rare.

For the lower league team to do that [and actually win as well] in a league format over eight games is patently ridiculous. Let's be honest, we can go back as far as we want, and if all those [very few] cup 'upsets' had been played over two legs they wouldn't have happened. RL isn't like soccer, we have a full goal line to defend, so we can't pack the goalmouth and hope for a lucky breakaway. The modern version of RL is probably even more unforgiving to the lower sides than it has ever been in the past.

Re: Next Season : Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:43 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Thats current season, next year its 900 K with you and London getting 700k parachute payment

Isn't parachute payment 250k?. 700-760k figure keep quoting is parachute payment + next years central funding afaik.

Re: Next Season : Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:09 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

Sure I read somewhere that the cap will be £1.2million in championship? But the club has to make a turnover of £2.5mil.But not seen ANY clarification from
RFL.

The last I heard was that the 2 relegated clubs each receive 780,000 in parachute payment. The salary cap in SL2 will be a maximum of 1million . As Bullmania says, to qualify for that a club has to have a turnover of 2 .5 million .
The SL 1 teams each receive 1.8 million.
So there will be a gap of just over 1 million in Central funding between a SL1 side and the 2 relegated clubs. As the funding for the existing championship clubs tapers, the gap widens significantly for those clubs who just qualify. I think the team which scrapes into SL2 receives 150,000.
As Mark Aston commented, the reintroduction of P & R is essentially a myth.
But it's not just the disparity between the leagues that are ,to my mind a problem. It's also within the second tier.
next year we will hear many complaints that SL2 is an unfair competition as the funding gap and cap possibility between Bradford/ London and let's say Hunslet will be massive.
If , and I think it's a big if , a team or teams from SL 2 is promoted, what chance will they have to recruit quality players with their new SL1 funding?

Re: Next Season : Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:11 pm  

So all in all it's a load of bollox

Re: Next Season : Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:13 pm  

roger daly wrote:

So all in all it's a load of bollox

Pretty much, yeah

[Bulliac]

Re: Next Season : Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:32 pm  

It's a system devised to retain the status quo whilst giving an impression that movement is likely. Whilst promotion is theoretically possible it is extremely unlikely and we're likely to see fewer promoted clubs than we got under licensing.

The first realistic chance of any team being promoted will be when they change the rules again. Of course, that could be sometime next week.....