Re: Cobb : Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:24 am  

Nothus wrote:

How exactly did he ruin the game? By calling our forward passes forward?
I'm struggling to think of any decision Cobb gave that could be seen as him 'ruining the game'.

Obviously it's subjective. I'm not a ref moaner and generally feel flat/marginally forward passes are part of the game. However, he routinely allowed Widnes more time in the tackle and their players were 2/3 metres in front of him at the 1st and 2nd ptb more often than not. This allowed them to restrict our go forward and by definition changed the nature of the game. Whether it changed the identity of the winner is irrelevant, it changed the basis of the contest. And like others have said, it's annoying and the last half an hour was boring because the Bulls were demoralised and felt an already difficult task was made impossible.

Re: Cobb : Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:24 am  

Bets'y Bulls wrote:

TBF isn't it the linesmen who give forward passes?

Linesmen seem to be neither user nor ornament. Its very seldom you see them do anything.

Re: Cobb : Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:10 am  

If I'm not mistaken didn't the 3 clowns, Hicks, Childs and Cobb all officiate at Wembley last week, touch judge, video ref and spare ref??

They are the worst of the worst, although Cobb is out on his own has the worst ref

I might ask my gaffer to watch Cobb ref a game and next time I make a mistake at work, ask him for a pay rise. It obviously works for some people

Re: Cobb : Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:28 am  

Maybe it's a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy. We see its Cobb and we expect the worst and we then think we see the worst. As he is supposedly a Leigh fan, and got an earlier "glowing endorcement" from James Lowes, it could easily lay the platform for a conspiracy theory. People were burnt at the stake for less.

[Bullseye]

Re: Cobb : Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:21 am  

It's all a bit hysterical is this Cobb bashing. He's not the greatest sure but in my opinion yesterday was down to our own failings rather than his.

We'd have needed a lot more than 50/50 decisions to go our way to have got a win.

Re: Cobb : Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:47 am  

Ok, so Cobb is not the best referee, but he hardly cost us the game.

As for forward passes - loads around me were shouting"forward" at least once in every Widnes set, you can usually tell if a pass if forward if those directly in line call it so - rarely did this happen. Plus very few people know the rules -

A PASS CAN ACTUALLY GO FORWARD SO LONG AS IT IS THROWN IN A BACKWARD DIRECTION (ie momentum rule)

For what its worth I think RL has generally got excellent referees, if you watch a game on TV after seeing it live you get a different view of decisions - most they get spot on and as said earlier, have a go yourself if you can do better.

Re: Cobb : Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:07 pm  

EW for PM wrote:

For what its worth I think RL has generally got excellent referees, if you watch a game on TV after seeing it live you get a different view of decisions - most they get spot on and as said earlier, have a go yourself if you can do better.

I couldn't disagree with you more. I think the standard of officiating in rugby league is atrocious and undermines our sport.

Re: Cobb : Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:51 pm  

If you look at all the rules then it would be virtually impossible for any human being to keep tabs on everything that is going on. Even with the benefit of a tv replay it's difficult to keep tabs. You've only to take the PTB as an example to see how many offences can be committed in the immediate vicinity. Trial by tv replay takes no prisoners.

Re: Cobb : Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:01 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

It's all a bit hysterical is this Cobb bashing. He's not the greatest sure but in my opinion yesterday was down to our own failings rather than his.

Correct. We were dreadful yesterday. Cobb is being used as a scapegoat for a extremely poor second half performance. Widnes' 1, 6, 7 and 9 were on top form yesterday. We were beaten by a better and faster team. Put it to bed and move on.

Re: Cobb : Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:11 pm  

Bets'y Bulls wrote:

TBF isn't it the linesmen who give forward passes?

Cobb blew for our two key "forward passes" instantly, himself. There was no delay for a TJ call. It was clearly him