Re: Ryan Shaw : Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:28 pm  

To be fair he is a good young talent,
However if Hull want him sell him on at a profit, by a better starting full back and move forward..

If we make money of the back of the deal its good business,

Don't however sell him and don't replace him or sell him and replace with some utter garbage in true bulls fashion.

Re: Ryan Shaw : Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:59 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

I'd have Clare ahead of him everyday of the week. Some of the things Clare did against Salford, Shaw isn't good enough to do. Setting up Williams try, intercepting when Salford had a 2 on 1, and then the try saving tackle right at the end. Ryan Shaw wouldn't have been able to do any of them. He's a solid player who can do a decent job across the back line. Given choice i would keep him, but he's certainly not worth spending big on.

Someone asked why an SL side rate him and we don't? KR have an extra £800k to spend than us. We have to be more careful with our money. KR could spend £70k on him, he could flop, but they still have £1.7millon worth of talent to choose from. We spend £70k, that's nearly a tenth of our SC gone.

A lot on here seem to rate Clare so why wasn't he playing on Saturday

Re: Ryan Shaw : Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:05 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

A lot on here seem to rate Clare so why wasn't he playing on Saturday

I point you to the rest of our crazy coaching decisions this year, he had a stinker at Widnes so was dropped due to that im hazarding a guess at but Mendeika was 10x worse against HKR dont think he caught a ball all game.

Shaw did seem to do ok in the air, but clares and mendeikas support play is alot better than his.

[Bulliac]

Re: Ryan Shaw : Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:47 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

A lot on here seem to rate Clare so why wasn't he playing on Saturday

Best ask Jimmy on that one. Clare had a poor game against Widnes [along with everyone else] why he was the sacrificial lamb and why Mendeika replaced him is something only he can answer.

Re: Ryan Shaw : Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:44 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

Best ask Jimmy on that one. Clare had a poor game against Widnes [along with everyone else] why he was the sacrificial lamb and why Mendeika replaced him is something only he can answer.

Mendeika looked well out of his depth at this level

Re: Ryan Shaw : Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:52 pm  

From what I've seen Mendieka is the better prospect but both could benefit from time with a good backs coach. I suspect Shaw will progress further if Rovers have the necessary coaching facility.

Re: Ryan Shaw : Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:39 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Shaw has looked decentto me, if raw, and defending naively at times. Just the sort of player I'd be looking to keep as I reckon he's got a lot of potential, and can kick too. Says a lot when a decent SL side with plenty of existing pace sees it, but we don't. But then, if you look in our wardrobe (where they must surely be, as they're never seen) you'll find a dozen players that we've signed but then presumably dual registered with Narnia, never to return.

Agree with your comments. Ryan is still young and many good players dont mature until their mid twenties. Admitted this lack of an open age Reserve Grade has caused many problems with holding on to players, but hopefully this may be resolved by some of the top SL Clubs, who have recognised this failing and want to set the future on a better footing

Re: Ryan Shaw : Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:45 pm  

I don't think KR would pay him anywhere near £70k. I guess he is on no more than £30k with us having 32 players all under £900k He is unproven but promising. I agree about Clare being the better one to keep. On paper we have Mullaney, Clare and Mendieka at full back so can let him go. It would be a shame though but money will do the talking again this off season.

Re: Ryan Shaw : Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:33 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

A lot on here seem to rate Clare so why wasn't he playing on Saturday

He was either dropped or couldn't stop dropping as there was talk about a bug that went round the camp.

Re: Ryan Shaw : Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:41 pm  

bowlinboy wrote:

To be fair he is a good young talent,
However if Hull want him sell him on at a profit, by a better starting full back and move forward..

If we make money of the back of the deal its good business,

Don't however sell him and don't replace him or sell him and replace with some utter garbage in true bulls fashion.

Sell him at a profit? He's not a bloody car mate, it doesn't work like that
Ryan is out of contract at the end of the season, no fee will be paid to the Bulls - he'll just leave.