Re: Bulls force salary cap row... : Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:02 pm  

There is also the allegation that some players have signed for Salford for contracts worth significantly less than they were offered by other clubs, alluding that they are being paid significant sums "off the books" outside of the club.

[Bulliac]

Re: Bulls force salary cap row... : Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:05 pm  

I thought the rule mentioned players receiving monies from 'third parties' [ie, people not connected with the club] and if otherwise it should fall under the cap? Money from sponsors or the chairman with his other hat on, should fall under the cap rules. The RFL wrote these rules they should stand by them.

Re: Bulls force salary cap row... : Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:06 pm  

Derwent wrote:

There is also the allegation that some players have signed for Salford for contracts worth significantly less than they were offered by other clubs, alluding that they are being paid significant sums "off the books" outside of the club.

Yup. And since that's been proven to be the case with Puletua, you can see why someone would jump to that conclusion for other players taking "pay cuts" to join Salford.

[Bulliac]

Re: Bulls force salary cap row... : Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:16 pm  

Derwent wrote:

There is also the allegation that some players have signed for Salford for contracts worth significantly less than they were offered by other clubs, alluding that they are being paid significant sums "off the books" outside of the club.

This has, 'allegedly', gone on since the cap was introduced, with antipodean players usually being implicated; aka the Singapore parachute - whereby players would supposedly find a wedge of moolahs waiting in an account at their stop over point on the way home. Not that it's ever been proved, but it does have the beauty of sounding very plausible and difficult to pin down. To be honest, I'm far from sure how this sort of thing would fit in with current money laundering rules, though being neither launderer nor accountant, I'm not the best to proffer an opinion.

Re: Bulls force salary cap row... : Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:12 pm  

There's also the question of hmrc getting involved if people are getting paid in brown envelopes

Re: Bulls force salary cap row... : Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:29 pm  

Lets play the "if" game. If they are found guilty, and if the RFL apply a punishment. Then, what happens. If the punishment is heavy then they finish bottom of SL and play in the Middle Eights. Probably where they would have finished anyway. Some punishment, (I don't think)................if, of course being a big word

Re: Bulls force salary cap row... : Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:33 pm  

BeechwoodBull wrote:

Lets play the "if" game. If they are found guilty, and if the RFL apply a punishment. Then, what happens. If the punishment is heavy then they finish bottom of SL and play in the Middle Eights. Probably where they would have finished anyway. Some punishment, (I don't think)................if, of course being a big word

I think Marc Green's point is probably that Salford allegedly committed these breaches last season. In a live salary cap environment, they should have got the punishment last season too. Which if it was a significant points deduction and depending on what time of the year it happened (for example, during the Middle 8s), it may have meant that Wakefield should have stayed up automatically, while Bradford played at home in the MPG against Halifax.

If that is what should have happened, that would explain why he would be angry with the RFL for not imposing the sanction at the time, and why he's complaining about it taking so long. I would expect the Halifax boys to be quite miffed too if it was the case.

But I'm very much theorising here.

[Bullseye]

Re: Bulls force salary cap row... : Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:11 pm  

Whatever's been going on the RFL need to pull their finger out and conclude the investigation.

Re: Bulls force salary cap row... : Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:18 pm  

RFL pull their finger out! you must be joking that bunch of muppets couldn't manage a train set if you asked them

Re: Bulls force salary cap row... : Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:47 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Whatever's been going on the RFL need to pull their finger out and conclude the investigation.

This is next on the list after the RFL finish the investigation in to Huddersfield tapping Kopout up.