Re: Lets get off the players backs : Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:02 pm  

Whilst I haven't booed I don't have a problem with anyone that does. Like FA says, there is one easy way to stop the booing, play better and recruit properly.

If any player who is in a team that is playing badly really gets upset by a negative fan response to the point where it negatively effects his contribution as a full time professional - then I suggest he should not be a full time professional sportsman.

Are we just supposed to blindly accept below par recruitment and performance? I don't think so. The playing staff and the people responsible for recruitment have it in their own power to change things, so just do it and stop bleating, then you'll get the backing you deserve.

Bull Mania makes a very good point above, of all rugby league clubs in this country we have been through more than most in the past few years and the fans have turned up home and away in good numbers and supported throughout, to question my (our) loyalty as being negative like ferres has done when its not us missing tackles and falling to recruit correctly in key positions, just really, really p!sses me off.

I was here long before him and the current players, and I'll (hopefully) be here long after him and the current players, so I'll damn well call it as I see it about my club. And at the moment its not good enough.

[Bullseye]

Re: Lets get off the players backs : Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:07 pm  

Duckman wrote:

...to question my (our) loyalty as being negative like ferres has done when its not us missing tackles and falling to recruit correctly in key positions, just really, really p!sses me off.

I was here long before him and the current players, and I'll (hopefully) be here long after him and the current players, so I'll damn well call it as I see it about my club. And at the moment its not good enough.

Amen to that.

Re: Lets get off the players backs : Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:52 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Amen to that.

Seconded

Re: Lets get off the players backs : Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:56 pm  

Maybe I've gone selectively deaf, but I heard very little booing and a whole lot of cheering and chanting at Halifax.

Certainly from where I was (Main Stand) it was more a sense of resigned frustration than any outright booing at the final whistle. I stuck around as the team trudged off (I didn't boo, but I didn't clap them off) and heard almost no booing.

I've heard far worse back in the day. I remember Northern being quite literally booed off the field and then thoroughly abused all the way up to the old changing rooms. I think our team would need counselling if they had to put up with what the team did back in the 70s

[Bullseye]

Re: Lets get off the players backs : Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:16 pm  

paulwalker71 wrote:

Maybe I've gone selectively deaf, but I heard very little booing and a whole lot of cheering and chanting at Halifax.

Certainly from where I was (Main Stand) it was more a sense of resigned frustration than any outright booing at the final whistle. I stuck around as the team trudged off (I didn't boo, but I didn't clap them off) and heard almost no booing.

I've heard far worse back in the day. I remember Northern being quite literally booed off the field and then thoroughly abused all the way up to the old changing rooms. I think our team would need counselling if they had to put up with what the team did back in the 70s

I heard a bit of booing at the end but nothing that major. Certainly heard worse in the past too. Thankfully we don't have the long walk to the dressing rooms nowadays. The amount of numpties at games nowadays would mean they'd need a police escort every game.

The worst reception I remember in recent memory was after that 66 point stuffing at home to Saints in 2005. Obviously something was seriously wrong behind the scenes as every player looked well out of sorts. Funnily enough it ended up being a turning point - we hit rock bottom and came back to win the GF.

Re: Lets get off the players backs : Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:28 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

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The worst reception I remember in recent memory was after that 66 point stuffing at home to Saints in 2005. Obviously something was seriously wrong behind the scenes as every player looked well out of sorts. Funnily enough it ended up being a turning point - we hit rock bottom and came back to win the GF.

So is this proof that booing works?

[Bullseye]

Re: Lets get off the players backs : Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:35 pm  

You get my drift...

Re: Lets get off the players backs : Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:50 pm  

paulwalker71 wrote:

Maybe I've gone selectively deaf, but I heard very little booing and a whole lot of cheering and chanting at Halifax.

Certainly from where I was (Main Stand) it was more a sense of resigned frustration than any outright booing at the final whistle. I stuck around as the team trudged off (I didn't boo, but I didn't clap them off) and heard almost no booing.

I've heard far worse back in the day. I remember Northern being quite literally booed off the field and then thoroughly abused all the way up to the old changing rooms. I think our team would need counselling if they had to put up with what the team did back in the 70s

I was in the stand behind sticks and it seemed quite loud. Wasn't the whole stand. The fans were behind the team the whole game even after we dropped it from a drop out and Addy threw it in to touch . But i would say it was 50/50 split between booing and clapping when the players sheepishly came over. But there is definite unrest and i think a lot of fans are fed up with Lowes.

Re: Lets get off the players backs : Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:39 pm  

Speaking of getting on the players' backs, I have re-read what was said after the Dewsbury game.

Ferres reflected: "We drew at Batley and got beaten at Dewsbury against teams who were far more enthusiastic than ours appeared to be.

"We will need to match the level of enthusiasm of whoever we play moving forward to fully show the undoubted ability that we've got in the team.
...
"I think if our enthusiasm levels are where they should be, then we have the ability to win games

So, Ferres said that OUR ENTHUSIASM LEVELS were NOT WHERE THEY SHOULD BE. Ferres thought they looked insufficiently bothered. And to the extent that he said so publicly!

That is an alarmingly damning public indictment from your MD. It means he thinks they weren't trying hard enough. Not bothered, Put it whatever way you want, that's the inside view.

Lowes said:

after losing at Dewsbury ...some of the stuff we did was unacceptable for our standards. We've had to regroup and we've had some harsh words to say to each other.

So, arguing in the camp, people blaming each other? "Unacceptable" stuff?

Isn't the booing from some fans just their way of making the same points?

Re: Lets get off the players backs : Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:16 pm  

If I go to a restaurant and my food comes out cold, I will complain.

If I buy a dvd from a shop and the disc fails to work, I will complain.

If I pay to have a utility company provide service to my home and that service is interrupted through nothing I have done, I will complain.

Why then should I not boo if the team I'm paying money to support performs at a less than adequate level?