[Bulliac]

Re: Fev Game : Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:45 am  

HamsterChops wrote:

They haven't played nearly as many Leeds Dual Reg players as people suggest. With the exception of Jordan Baldwinson, who has spent most of the season playing for Fev, other Leeds Dual Reg players have only played 2 or 3 games a piece. They've only had Baldwinson, Golding & Mullally playing the last couple of weeks.

Is it just me that finds this fixation on Leeds' dual reg players a bit OTT?

The idea that Leeds are, somehow, really concerned that we are going to meet them in the eights and are perturbed by this, to such an extent that they will be prepared to offer extra players to Fev, just to keep us out of the four, is plain lunacy, imo.

I know it's all part of the build up etc but, Jeez give me strength - they've getting all their top earners back and have just beaten the top two in SL over the last fortnight and we're a second tier team which is struggling to make the top four. Bet they're quaking in their boots!!

Re: Fev Game : Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:48 am  

Bulliac wrote:

Is it just me that finds this fixation on Leeds' dual reg players a bit OTT?

The idea that Leeds are, somehow, really concerned that we are going to meet them in the eights and are perturbed by this, to such an extent that they will be prepared to offer extra players to Fev, just to keep us out of the four, is plain lunacy, imo.

I know it's all part of the build up etc but, Jeez give me strength - they've getting all their top earners back and have just beaten the top two in SL over the last fortnight and we're a second tier team which is struggling to make the top four. Bet they're quaking in their boots!!

Couldn't agree more. I don't get it at all.

Apart from the irony if one of them scores a winning try against us (and that's all it is, a bit ironic considering some of our fans' obsession with them), I really don't see it being all that relevant.

Re: Fev Game : Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:54 am  

Can't wait. Should be a sell out.

Re: Fev Game : Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:56 am  

psychostring wrote:

Went to buy my tickets this morning. They sold about 15 in the 5-10 mins I was in the shop and there were people waiting to buy when I left. The woman behind the till said they were queuing into the car park to buy after yesterdays match.

I walked past the ticket office on my way out yesterday and looked inside. It was only a couple of minutes after the players had been applauded, and the queue was already back to the door then.

Advance ticket sales also won't be the only judge. There's no price incentive to buy early (same amount on the gate as the ticket is). There's only the 10% to Bradford and knowing you have it in case of a sell out. But some people won't be that fussed about that unless they hear it's getting close to selling out, they'll still just decide on the day to head over.

Re: Fev Game : Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:00 pm  

I think the idea of replacing Howath is wrong . Given the criticisms levelled at him in the time he's been here I watched him closely yesterday and I can see why Smith has not only been starting with him but having him on the field when O'Brien is also there. And I actually think it's making O'Brien an even better player.
Charnock had another good game yesterday not only with his kicking. He is becoming more confident and took on the line a good few times.
Moss Chisholm Charnock Howarth and O'Brien would all be in my 17.
Whatever the result next weekend I think Smith's team selection will be a clear indication of how he will recruit for next year. For example if Gaskell is going to the Giants and is selected in the 17 , I believe that indicates that he is not content with those covering the starting right centre/ back up half back roles.

Re: Fev Game : Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:09 pm  

I still think Howarth is a 13 rather than a hooker. He has a very similar skillset (and weaknesses) as Addy for mine. Good squad player to cover places, good first choice 13 for a Championship level team. After that, I remain unconvinced.

I think the idea of leaving Gaskell out if he's fit though is a crazy one. Whether he's leaving or not, you don't leave out a quality player like that out of spite. I get not wanting to change a winning formula, but it's a formula that's beat Whitehaven & Oldham, not Wigan & Warrington.

Re: Fev Game : Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:24 pm  

I get a lot of feeling that people say if we don't play at our best we will lose. That could be true but also assumes that Fev will play at their best. The beauty of sport is that there are two teams each of which could play good, bad or moderate and any combination will result in a different result. That's why they make you actually play the game out.

Re: Fev Game : Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:43 pm  

HamsterChops wrote:

I think the idea of leaving Gaskell out if he's fit though is a crazy one. Whether he's leaving or not, you don't leave out a quality player like that out of spite.

I don't think anyone is suggesting leaving Gaskell out "out of spite". I do have doubts about his ability to get up to speed in such an important game after a lengthy spell away. Who'd have thought we'd be having a discussion because we more than one option in the halves when Gaskell last played!

rugbyreddog wrote:

I get a lot of feeling that people say if we don't play at our best we will lose. That could be true but also assumes that Fev will play at their best. The beauty of sport is that there are two teams each of which could play good, bad or moderate and any combination will result in a different result. That's why they make you actually play the game out.

This is very true - it's actually a battle between the two biggest teams with the ability to blow hot and cold in the league this season, hence we are both are where we are right now - having written off the season a few weeks back but both right back in it.

Re: Fev Game : Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:46 pm  

amberavenger wrote:

I don't think anyone is suggesting leaving Gaskell out "out of spite". I do have doubts about his ability to get up to speed in such an important game after a lengthy spell away. Who'd have thought we'd be having a discussion because we more than one option in the halves when Gaskell last played!

Was definitely mentioned last week. A sense of "well he's leaving anyway, so sod him!". If Gaskell isn't totally fit, it's not worth the risk. But as far as getting up to speed, it has to happen at some point. If you leave him out this week, you're getting him up to speed in the middle 8s (IF the result goes our way this weekend) against the likes of Leeds, Huddersfield or Salford. If we lose this week, it all doesn't matter anyway, as all we have left are pointless glorified friendlies.

Once he is fit though, it is a very odd situation to be in as a Bradford fan as you say. From Gaskell being out earlier in the season and us having zero options at half back, to actually disputing over which ones to play? I feel all dizzy.

Re: Fev Game : Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:57 pm  

HamsterChops wrote:

Was definitely mentioned last week. A sense of "well he's leaving anyway, so sod him!". If Gaskell isn't totally fit, it's not worth the risk. But as far as getting up to speed, it has to happen at some point. If you leave him out this week, you're getting him up to speed in the middle 8s (IF the result goes our way this weekend) against the likes of Leeds, Huddersfield or Salford. If we lose this week, it all doesn't matter anyway, as all we have left are pointless glorified friendlies.

I see where you are coming from, but should we qualify for the Top 4, our games in the Middle 8s would be far less pressure than against Fev on Sunday! If we lose against Leeds, Huddersfield and Salford, who cares?

Only the coach and Gaskell himself will know if he's ready, but going on his past history I remain to be convinced.