Re: Robbie Hunter-Paul quits Bulls : Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:37 pm  

DrFeelgood wrote:

Unfortunately not all of us are happy with our own assertions, Inspector Aardvark, and prefer the club to at least give an inclination of the position we're currently in amid the uncertainty.

What good is a statement from the club like the last one delivered by Mr Green only to find a day later that a winding up petition is posted against the club, wages were paid late, and the person he defended has walked out since? They are damned if they do and damned if they don't at the moment.

Re: Robbie Hunter-Paul quits Bulls : Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:05 pm  

BD20 wrote:

What good is a statement from the club like the last one delivered by Mr Green only to find a day later that a winding up petition is posted against the club, wages were paid late, and the person he defended has walked out since? They are damned if they do and damned if they don't at the moment.

What fans want is an HONEST and ACCURATE statement about what the situation is and what is happening behind the scenes.

The last statement by Marc Green was neither honest nor accurate - in fact, it sounded very much like the words of somebody who had spat the dummy out because his precious holiday had been disturbed. To blame the fans because they don't buy their drinks inside the ground, how petty was that?

All the fans want is openness and honesty. It is no shame to admit you are struggling. But to insist everything is A-OK when the situation is clearly far from it, only makes fans feel they are being treated as mugs and that the management has no respect for it's paying customers.

If you can't be bothered to explain to those concerned what is really going on, then you have no right to complain at any gossip / Chinese whispers / call it what you will, that arises as a result of people having to guess based on the scraps that they are fed.

Re: Robbie Hunter-Paul quits Bulls : Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:38 pm  

Bullmans Parade wrote:

What fans want is an HONEST and ACCURATE statement about what the situation is and what is happening behind the scenes.

The last statement by Marc Green was neither honest nor accurate - in fact, it sounded very much like the words of somebody who had spat the dummy out because his precious holiday had been disturbed. To blame the fans because they don't buy their drinks inside the ground, how petty was that?

All the fans want is openness and honesty. It is no shame to admit you are struggling. But to insist everything is A-OK when the situation is clearly far from it, only makes fans feel they are being treated as mugs and that the management has no respect for it's paying customers.

If you can't be bothered to explain to those concerned what is really going on, then you have no right to complain at any gossip / Chinese whispers / call it what you will, that arises as a result of people having to guess based on the scraps that they are fed.

I don't disagree and from what I have heard more players are set to leave including those who we thought were contracted into next year. I hope this isn't the case but with no news or news you can't trust coming from official sources then who do you believe.

Re: Robbie Hunter-Paul quits Bulls : Tue Aug 30, 2016 3:35 pm  

Not sure anything will be announced until after the 5th September (WUP). Staff and players leaving, the Jarrod Sammut tweet, but the owner continues to make the right noises, players being signed etc. Something doesn't make sense.

[Bulliac]

Re: Robbie Hunter-Paul quits Bulls : Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:21 pm  

I agree that nothing makes much sense.

Players are being announced for next season and it appears to be business as usual, except that the management apparently has an escape committee and is executing some sort of, 'Sound Of Music escape plan', by disappearing one by one whilst singing, 'So Long, Farewell'.
It is all very redolent of a river trip I took some time ago, where the boat's captain told us, I think jokingly, that in the event of an emergency we were to remain in our seats and carefully follow the instructions which he and the crew would would be shouting to us through megaphones from the riverbank.

On the basis that, if the chairman didn't feel confident of pulling the club through, there was little point in him scraping together the wages last month and he may as well have just called it a day there and then. The fact he didn't makes me guess there has to be a plan, though I can't think what. If we get past wages day without incident I'll maybe start feeling a little more confident.

The old expression was hope for the best but expect the worst - I think I'll go and dust it down...again.

Re: Robbie Hunter-Paul quits Bulls : Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:24 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

I agree that nothing makes much sense.

Players are being announced for next season and it appears to be business as usual, except that the management apparently has an escape committee and is executing some sort of, 'Sound Of Music escape plan', by disappearing one by one whilst singing, 'So Long, Farewell'.
It is all very redolent of a river trip I took some time ago, where the boat's captain told us, I think jokingly, that in the event of an emergency we were to remain in our seats and carefully follow the instructions which he and the crew would would be shouting to us through megaphones from the riverbank.

On the basis that, if the chairman didn't feel confident of pulling the club through, there was little point in him scraping together the wages last month and he may as well have just called it a day there and then. The fact he didn't makes me guess there has to be a plan, though I can't think what. If we get past wages day without incident I'll maybe start feeling a little more confident.

The old expression was hope for the best but expect the worst - I think I'll go and dust it down...again.

Like the reference to the sound of music ha, so long, farewell. Will we see Marc Green next to go, disappearing through the Captain Vonn Trapp door.

Re: Robbie Hunter-Paul quits Bulls : Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:00 pm  

Maybe we already have a new owner and it is being saved until after the WUP on Mon before being announced? It is a very strange series of events playing out. As has been said, why would signings for next year be being announced if everything is doom and gloom. Jarrod Sammutt's tweet was odd and he later seemed to back track a little and say he'd heard some old news about wages coupled with some chinese whispers.

If a new owner has been sorted/agreed they probably wouldn't want their first public duty to be presiding over a winding up hearing.

We haven't heard anything about players/staff not being paid this month? That should have been Fri or today shouldn't it? If someone had just taken over or the process was ongoing you could understand the delay in payment last month.

The optimistic side of me is hoping Sundays match is a win, the hearing on Monday is a non-event like the last one and then we have an announcement immediately after saying a new regime (or at least a significant investor is on board with Marc) is in place and we can get on with looking forward to the rest of the shield and 2017.

Of course we could be typing about the death of the Bulls this time next week.

Re: Robbie Hunter-Paul quits Bulls : Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:40 pm  

All very well, but what we need is an announcement. I think Green should be made by law to make an announcement at least once an hour.

Re: Robbie Hunter-Paul quits Bulls : Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:41 am  

Is Sammut being a bit disingenuous? He was knocked back by the Bulls a couple of times so maybe a bit of payback?

Agents are usually a savvy lot (Caisley being an exception) so allowing signings would go against looking after their Players interests if the Bulls were going down the admin route again.
The contradictory rumours going about aren't helping but I suspect the Club is saying nothing because saying something (just to placate those who think it's their right to know everything but contribute nothing) would just add petrol to the rumour bonfire!

Re: Robbie Hunter-Paul quits Bulls : Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:03 am  

It seems the latest furour is simply over Sammut's tweet and people taking a vague comment by an ex player as proof that the sky is falling.

Until something is officially announced either way, it's unconstructive to speculate.