Re: Offers of help? : Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:54 am  

Hull offered loan players but the Bulls never went back to them.

Re: Offers of help? : Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:59 am  

Nothus wrote:

I'm pretty sure Murray was used by Salford yesterday..

He was in the 19 man squad, but not the 17

Re: Offers of help? : Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:59 am  

beefy1 wrote:

Hull offered loan players but the Bulls never went back to them.

What?

When we've been struggling so much why would we not take up such an offer?

Re: Offers of help? : Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:09 pm  

paulwalker71 wrote:

He was in the 19 man squad, but not the 17

If you read Leeds' twitter during the game, it gets more confusing. They tweeted that there was a late change to the Salford team, and Murray had replaced Lannon on the bench. Only to later tweet that the stadium announcer had suggested that change had been reversed and Lannon actually was on the bench after all.

So he was either 18th man or played off the bench. Which one, you'd probably have to ask someone who was there to clarify.

Re: Offers of help? : Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:33 pm  

HamsterChops wrote:

If you read Leeds' twitter during the game, it gets more confusing. They tweeted that there was a late change to the Salford team, and Murray had replaced Lannon on the bench. Only to later tweet that the stadium announcer had suggested that change had been reversed and Lannon actually was on the bench after all.

So he was either 18th man or played off the bench. Which one, you'd probably have to ask someone who was there to clarify.

Either way he's clearly in and around the Salford squad at the moment, which explains why he might appear for Halifax on DR, but not be with us on (at least a month's) loan.

Re: Offers of help? : Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:42 pm  

You got nothing from London in return for the Bulls voting against us when we are in a mess and on the edge other than 3 poor players to add to what you had already taken from us. Enjoy Div 1.

[Bullseye]

Re: Offers of help? : Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:46 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

You got nothing from London in return for the Bulls voting against us when we are in a mess and on the edge other than 3 poor players to add to what you had already taken from us. Enjoy Div 1.

You make my point for me.

Re: Offers of help? : Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:27 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

We are all stronger together though. Unity is strength.

Losing a large area, capable of supplying 10K plus for a top side, would be utterly stupid as a whole for a sport like RL, where there is no other comparable area waiting for the chance to come in. We're not soccer. We don't have four divisions of full time of teams champing at the bit for their day in the sun- we have just one, and then we're largely into part-time.

A 'big' club is the main focus for the game in its area. Once an area loses its premier club it starts to decline as an rugby playing area. If the kids don't have stars to emulate they drift away, lose interest, find something else - we're a long, long way from the 1950s, there are a gazillion other things for kids to do nowadays, so we can either 'use 'em or lose 'em'. If we give them the stars to cheer on each Sunday, they'll want emulate them and be a part of the game - if we don't, they won't. Simple as really, and fortunately some clubs clearly do understand this.

Theres always the chance of another "big" club emerging though. I mean in the early nineties who would have thought Bradford would finish that era like they did? I can't see how you can make a decision good or bad regards any team on what their attendances either are now or have been in the past.

[Bullseye]

Re: Offers of help? : Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:48 pm  

Disagree GFB. Who was the last "big" club to emerge since Bradford?

There hasn't been one.

SL titles have only been won by 4 clubs since 1996. You have to go back nearly 30 years to find the league won by anyone else.

You could even argue that Bradford were already a big club since they'd been league champions in 1981.

I really don't see how a small minority sport like RL can afford to allow areas where it was successful to wither on the vine.

By all means spread the game to new areas but this shouldn't be to the detriment of those areas where it is already established. Clubs like ours must stick together or we'll all fall by the wayside in the end.

Trouble is that fans and club owners often can't see beyond their own self interest and parochialism. Rivalry trumps sober judgement. I'm sure our demise has delighted a lot of Fax fans but that delight will be short lived. Unless fans and clubs see the bigger picture we'll see more clubs go to the wall and the game become more irrelevant to the wider sporting world.

Re: Offers of help? : Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:50 pm  

Let's be realistic, we have no divine right to assistance and any help was much appreciated and better than none. It may not have been as much as was offered publicly but it still did its bit. What needs to be asked is where the offers of assistance for teams like Swinton. We aren't in any situation to assist but others clearly are and yet no one is offering publicly that I'm aware of. Conspiracy nuts may say the RFL don't want members to help them out