Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:20 am  

...hang on though....if I believed the earth was flat, rich jews ruled the world, brexit would stop immigration and moon landings were faked.....

May be AC was 'given the club' because Nige secretly wanted it and the plan was to swap jobs as AC actually wants to run the RFL!!!!! No-ones told AC Nige has dropped his end of the bargain and AC is still labouring under the illusion that he's still RFL CEO elect!!!

Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:27 am  

Nothus wrote:

If he really knew that much about our club's history, he might recall we did almost exactly the same thing Wigan have just done, breaking the cap over a technicality.
Except ours was worse because it was in a season where we actually won the GF and we didn't even get a points deduction as a result!

Why has he decided to become this self appointed mouthpiece for the lower leagues? He just needs to wind his neck in, making enemies out of those with power and control can only hurt the club in the long run.

I think its just a personality clash, he doesn't like Lenagan and vice versa!

Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:21 am  

Blotto wrote:

I think its just a personality clash, he doesn't like Lenagan and vice versa!

It's not just IL though is it. There's also Hudgell, Carter and Koukash (even though he doesn't really matter anymore).
We can probably also add those chairmen from the lower league clubs who were excluded from the yorkshire cup. That in itself was another petty act that quite frankly a man of his age and his position should be mature and professional enough to avoid.

Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:27 am  

When Chalmers is sticking it to the elites who seek to trample all over us and the clubs around us he has my full support.

I can’t see how this is anything to do with us so I think he should leave it. Still if it p15535 off that greedy sod and a few wigginers its funny.

Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:35 pm  

Scarey71 wrote:

Absolutely spot on. It was funny to begin with but this is only going to turn him into a Beaumont. Keep doing what you are doing with the club Mr C that's p155ing enough people off without actually saying anything. You've won the Championship boys over but now let someone else fire their bullets.

I doubt Chalmers is gonna run the club unsustainably and leave the fans in the lurch!

Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:44 pm  

DrFeelgood wrote:

I doubt Chalmers is gonna run the club unsustainably and leave the fans in the lurch!

True, but will he become almost universally hated like Degsy? Very probable

We've spent a decade eating humble pie. We've not earnt the right to preach and pontificate.

Yes we should should put our view forward but just reading the full piece in the T&A is uncomfortable. Calling out other lower league clubs in the way he did? I know there's emotion there but it's not doing the clubs rep any good airing it in public every week.

Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:48 pm  

Have you noticed its nearly always the New owners that do this in the press? Beaumont, Koukash, Chalmers etc

Maybe these guys are good guys that the sport needs and are just vocal like fans in the early days when they realise how dated and poorly run our game is.

Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:40 pm  

Binosh wrote:

Have you noticed its nearly always the New owners that do this in the press? Beaumont, Koukash, Chalmers etc

Maybe these guys are good guys that the sport needs and are just vocal like fans in the early days when they realise how dated and poorly run our game is.

This is a very good point. Maybe not in this particular instance, but without AC kicking up a fuss about SL teams running roughshod over non-SL teams and the RFL, WOULD they get away with anything?

I don't think he is making himself a pariah either; I imagine 90% of the non-SL teams chairmen support him, even in things like this. Hell, in this case I can even see a couple of SL chairmen supporting him.

He maybe should wind it in a bit, but what he says has the ring of truth in it despite it being delivered in a clumsy fashion.

Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:53 pm  

Can’t say I give a poop about upsetting a few SL club chairmen. If you believe they will at some point ‘do us a favour’ I’d question your sanity. I’d rather read his true opinions than a load guff each week that is carefully worded to not offend anyone.

Re: Andrew Chalmers and his social concience : Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:20 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

Can’t say I give a poop about upsetting a few SL club chairmen. If you believe they will at some point ‘do us a favour’ I’d question your sanity. I’d rather read his true opinions than a load guff each week that is carefully worded to not offend anyone.

I'm more partial to this point of view. If nobody stands up to these guys, then who will? He might be self-appointed and self-righteous but I'm convinced he has the club's and the game's best interests at heart and if he's a thorn in the side of some then who cares? At least he's fighting on our behalf.