Re: Nige out... : Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:59 am  

Nothus wrote:

Keeping my powder dry until I see who we appoint as coach and how next year's squad shapes up.
Just watching an interview with John Kear now and he mentions that next season is 'a very important season for the game as a whole'.

Bulls need to make sure we finish in the top 6/top 8 next year if it's 2 teams of 10 or 2 teams of 12 from 2024 otherwise might as well call it a day.

Re: Nige out... : Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:25 pm  

I feel something more dramatic is coming for both the game and the Bulls. 51k for a 4 team cup final. Giants scored and it was so quiet I thought the ref had stopped play.

[Bullseye]

Re: Nige out... : Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:59 pm  

The game needs a boost alright.

As for the Bulls we're just like a modern day Huddersfield Barracudas. We need a Ken Davy or we'll continue to wither on the vine.

Re: Nige out... : Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:23 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

The game needs a boost alright.

As for the Bulls we're just like a modern day Huddersfield Barracudas. We need a Ken Davy or we'll continue to wither on the vine.

I don't think there is any way that Nigel could get us to where we need to be, I would actually love to be proved wrong and he kickstarts Bullmania again.
Given there is very little chance that is going to happen I think he should do the honourable thing and give Chris Caisley a bell..

Re: Nige out... : Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:21 pm  

Playing devils advocate here..

After all the years of owners who have stolen money, not paid people, sent us bust. The club is now at least seemingly getting the fundamentals right. Progression might be slow compared to other clubs, but isn’t this better than the boom or bust we’ve seen in recent years?

I have spoken to Nigel and Jason Hirst a few times in hospitality, as a fan it’s painful to see us nowhere near the likes of Featherstone. But I admire the fact they aren’t promising anything and are just trying to make the club sustainable. Something we all wanted. Are things perfect? Far from it. But maybe better things are coming and we shouldn’t really be looking for scapegoats? The guy pumped 600k in of his own money clearing chalmers debts. Why would he have let that amount of debt get run up if he was involved?

Re: Nige out... : Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:19 am  

Chalmers wasn't supposed to be on his own.

Wood and the RFL hand picked the dynamic duo of Lowe and Chalmers who both knew they were getting the club before liquidation.

People who'd thrown their hats in the ring before and were preparing new bids were told not to bother doing so again and the club was subsequently liquidated.

My guess is the Lowe/Chalmers partnership was meant to get us to the time Nigel quit the IRFL and then 'sell' to him. It looks like Chalmers, left to his own devices, went rouge and got delusions of walking the team out at Wembley.

I still believe Nige had a plan, whether that would benefit him more than the Bulls remained to be seen but if rumours are true and Mrs Wood is divorcing him and taking 50% he's in a precarious position both clubwise and personally.

We may well be collateral damage if he's made a lot of 'loans' to the club and she wants that money back as part of her settlement.

You can only speculate that he had the money to buy the lease, move us out and sell the land and make a pretty penny... he talked about it enough but it looks like it's coming off the rails.

Re: Nige out... : Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:59 am  

I honestly don't buy the idea of Wood taking us over to benefit himself. Of all the ways to benefit financially, owning an RL club isn't one of them. Even the the talk of Odsal, the RFL brought odsal over a decade ago. I honestly don't believe there was anything more to it than the RFL totally crapping themselves that a big RL club was on the verge of going bust, panicked and bailed us out, which just damaged everyone as a result.

I believe he probably does want the club to do well, but whether he has the finances and competency to back that up is another argument.

Re: Nige out... : Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:27 am  

Best laid plans springs to mind.

[Pumpetypump]

Re: Nige out... : Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:08 am  

Its the same old cyclical conversation. We all know there was something extremely odd about the way our new owners have been appointed. We know that people with money were overlooked in favour of people who had none. But not one of us can come up with a compelling reason why we've been meddled with in this way. Someone had a plan for Bradford and manipulated ownerships to achieve it. But what was the plan, and is it still a plan or did it fail?

Re: Nige out... : Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:42 am  

My own belief is that jumping into bed with stock cars was the first sign it was failing.

I assume the big idea was, acquire the lease, CBMDC sell the land in totality, pay out the leaseholder whilst putting a smaller more affordable stadium on Dickie Dunns and we're SL ready - home wise if not team wise.

Then
- BoZo levels everything up
- Covid strikes further levelling up
- Putin has a brainfart REALLY levelling up
- Someone decides Dickie Dunns should be listed
- Mrs Wood decides enough is enough
- JK bores the remaining fans away with the one-up fest whilst simultaneously losing the dressing room

I actually feel sorry for him...he must be under immense pressure.