Re: vs. St Helens - Round 12 : Sun May 11, 2014 9:56 pm  

George played Left side 2nd row. Foster was ill but still went out there.

I think at one point our 13 guys on the pitch were 1 hooker, 1 prop, 3x2nd row men, 4 centres, 3 wingers and a stand off.

Re: vs. St Helens - Round 12 : Sun May 11, 2014 10:03 pm  

zapperbull wrote:

Weather you like it or not LSH has been here a very long time and in that time we have not performed on the pitch despite having different head coaches, so you can't tell me the poor performances on the pitch are nothing to do with him its all the head coach's problem!

Thats a bit like when we got rid of Basil Richards at the end of 2009 that was going to cure all our ills remind me again how 2010 went.

You could have Wayne Bennett as assistant coach if the top man won't listen nothing he can do.

Re: vs. St Helens - Round 12 : Sun May 11, 2014 10:08 pm  

Highlander wrote:

George played Left side 2nd row. Foster was ill but still went out there.

I think at one point our 13 guys on the pitch were 1 hooker, 1 prop, 3x2nd row men, 4 centres, 3 wingers and a stand off.

Doesn't make any difference if Foster was ill he's only in for his goal kicking surely not his attacking or defensive prowess, he's one of the most overhyped players we've signed in my opinion.

Re: vs. St Helens - Round 12 : Mon May 12, 2014 1:03 am  

Bull Mania wrote:

I was watching, we scored 0. Not could have scored 10.

The two things are not mutually exclusive though.

Bull Mania wrote:

We scored nothing, zero, zilch, diddly squat. Out of 80 minutes you've picked one attempt from dummy half as a reason we could have scored 10 points?

Yes. O'Brien was inches short from try which would have been 6 points. Had we scored then, as is common with teams which gain some momentum, there was plenty of time to go and all it would have need to make the mighty 10 would have been one more unconverted try.

Bull Mania wrote:

I was at that game. He did ok. Nothing more. I doubt NRL clubs watched that game and though "hmm that Gale is class,he could replace Cronk, Thurston"

You were at the game. You have your on opinion. Gale was most people's MoM or close, but it is common for people who obsesively don't like a player to be blind to the facts. As for your ridiculous straw man, how do you get from Gale having one good game to hallucinating that someone compared Gale to Thurston? What are you on?

Bull Mania wrote:

I would have Gale ahead of Addy. But that doesn't make him "a class HB"

I didn't say he was, and his erratic performances have done nothing to enhace his reputation, I have said that he does have some class - ie playing like he played against Warrington is actually within his capabilities - but he has failed to consistently or even often to reach that standard. I said he is OUR "class at half back" which he is, we don't have any more. Whatever or however much that may be, he's it. That's that. And the total lack of direction today proved this. I

Re: vs. St Helens - Round 12 : Mon May 12, 2014 8:15 am  

Blaming an assistant coach, who I have never heard of as 'defensive coach', for the shortcummins of a team is surreal.

[Bulliac]

Re: vs. St Helens - Round 12 : Mon May 12, 2014 9:21 am  

tigertot wrote:

Blaming an assistant coach, who I have never heard of as 'defensive coach', for the shortcummins of a team is surreal.

I'm sure you only come on here for the surreal TT Heaven knows we get plenty of it....

Little to be said to be honest. Plenty of effort but totally out gunned, especially when Kaufusi was off the field. Without anything like a full set of props, no scrumhalf and with wingers in the second row.....well, predictable hardly does it justice. Need a few more incummins [sorry] and players back from injury...

Re: vs. St Helens - Round 12 : Mon May 12, 2014 10:26 am  

The entire spine of the team was playing out of position and we're massively light right across the board. Defence wins games and all that, and at times it was dire yesterday, but your attack is setting up the field position for the defence to do its job. We made just shy of 900 metres in the game. On average Saints have conceded 1300 metres per match this year. We made less than 3/4 of the typical dent in their defence. You can have all the defensive coaches in the world but if you're not getting the field position then you haven't got the buffer to keep them out.

The fourth try in the first half was the most disappointing to me and felt like the moment the floodgates were kicked open.

More of the same next week I'm afraid.

Re: vs. St Helens - Round 12 : Mon May 12, 2014 11:26 am  

It's ok guys,I don't think we were targeting the Saints game.

Agree,Gale has class but its not top imo.I doubt his inclusion would have made a blind bit of difference yesterday as I have yet to see him be a match winner since he arrived.

I am serious though,I don't think we were targeting the Saints game.

No fire power/Pace/Defensive heart---simple as that imo.

Re: vs. St Helens - Round 12 : Mon May 12, 2014 11:36 am  

Saints are by far the better team even if we had our first choice players on the park, so a win was always unlikely. It's the schoolboy errors which are hard to take though as irrespective of "class" you would think professional players should be able to pass and catch the ball and not put themselves under so much pressure. Hopefully we will have a few more players back from injury for next week in Manchester - fingers crossed.

Re: vs. St Helens - Round 12 : Mon May 12, 2014 11:49 am  

vbfg wrote:

The entire spine of the team was playing out of position and we're massively light right across the board. Defence wins games and all that, and at times it was dire yesterday, but your attack is setting up the field position for the defence to do its job. We made just shy of 900 metres in the game. On average Saints have conceded 1300 metres per match this year. We made less than 3/4 of the typical dent in their defence. You can have all the defensive coaches in the world but if you're not getting the field position then you haven't got the buffer to keep them out.

The fourth try in the first half was the most disappointing to me and felt like the moment the floodgates were kicked open.

More of the same next week I'm afraid.

You are Phil Clarke & I claim my 5 pies.