Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:26 pm  

thepimp007 wrote:

Read on their board he was the next big thing coming through if im right think his brother is the kid at warrington morgan. Reading the leeds board they are saying he hasnt stepped up that bit further this year and needs to if he wants to get closer to appearing for the first team. Seems a very promising player though

Daniel Smith at Huddersfield is his brother, not Morgan. As a youngster every club in the country was after him, but I believe Lee Crooks played a part in him ending up at Leeds. Has the potential to go as far as he wants in the game.

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:26 am  

Nothus wrote:

Well, let's not forget that we have just offered a contract to James Davies. We also offered one to Chisholm, rightly or wrongly, so clearly there are some funds available.
Also, to date, there hasn't been a sniff of late payment to staff, no winding up petitions, no disgruntled creditors etc. etc.

Could it be that, finally, we are actually being managed properly and living within our means?

Excellent point we should all keep in mind.
Any future that doesn't involve an administrator and winding up order is a bright future for me. OK, further down the track we will need more than just surviving but this season it is a case of just surviving.

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:29 am  

According to T&A sounds like loan reinforcements coming next with some season long loans which is good news. Would expect Lilley to be one of the season long loans.

[Bullseye]

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:54 am  

Lilley on season long loan would be brilliant given Leon's knees, Keyes ankle and Chisholm's contract!

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Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:07 am  

Bullseye wrote:

Lilley on season long loan would be brilliant given Leon's knees, Keyes ankle and Chisholm's contract!

Indeed, and no-one seems to know which of the three is the most broken..

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:16 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Living within your means is one of those fine-sounding phrases that don't always quite fit the bill. It's abut like eating up your greens, you know you should, but what you want is the ability to feast on steak, Whitby fish n chips, or giant stuffed crust pepperoni pizzas.

What I want is not to live beyond our means, but to have owners who possess substantial and liquid means, plenty of which they are happy to spend on our living.

The sad truth is that even if we were getting 10k crowds, that doesn't let you compete with teams owned by ambitious and relatively minted owners. That's how it is. Sure, for now, I'll settle for stability - it's nice to go a few months with no money panic news -but I hope we aren't going to be an also- ran with no ambition. And ambition costs. Finally, in the medium term, we'll never keep any of the great young prospects we keep turning out. Losing all of them has for me been probably the most painful part of recent years.

To carry on your analogy we are having to rely on food banks.

[Bullseye]

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:19 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Living within your means is one of those fine-sounding phrases that don't always quite fit the bill. It's abut like eating up your greens, you know you should, but what you want is the ability to feast on steak, Whitby fish n chips, or giant stuffed crust pepperoni pizzas.

What I want is not to live beyond our means, but to have owners who possess substantial and liquid means, plenty of which they are happy to spend on our living.

The sad truth is that even if we were getting 10k crowds, that doesn't let you compete with teams owned by ambitious and relatively minted owners. That's how it is. Sure, for now, I'll settle for stability - it's nice to go a few months with no money panic news -but I hope we aren't going to be an also- ran with no ambition. And ambition costs. Finally, in the medium term, we'll never keep any of the great young prospects we keep turning out. Losing all of them has for me been probably the most painful part of recent years.

I'm prepared to cut them some slack if we manage to stay up but I'd hope it would then lead to us showing some intent to do better next year. Going down would be a disaster.

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:58 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

I'm prepared to cut them some slack if we manage to stay up but I'd hope it would then lead to us showing some intent to do better next year. Going down would be a disaster.

me too, but that's the thing; spending to push for promotion offers absolutely no guarantees, and not even a likelihood. It might be a long time before there's another Leigh and who knows what crackpot scheme will be next. Whereas the spending that could have reasonably comfortably assured our survival would have been very considerably less. So much less, I don't understand why anyone would gamble our chances on hoping we scrape by by a couple of points against the next worse team.

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:13 pm  

imwakefieldtillidie wrote:

Daniel Smith at Huddersfield is his brother, not Morgan. As a youngster every club in the country was after him, but I believe Lee Crooks played a part in him ending up at Leeds. Has the potential to go as far as he wants in the game.

Thanks for that, take it he was a lock lane junior like daniel then? Theres a quality player hiding in daniel for me too

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:26 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

According to T&A sounds like loan reinforcements coming next with some season long loans which is good news. Would expect Lilley to be one of the season long loans.

I accept beggars can't be choosers, but are these real season long loan deals, or season long but we will have you back tomorrow deals?