[Bullseye]

Re: Keighley (A) : Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:17 pm  

RickyF1 wrote:

What was attendance yesterday?

2912.

Biggest outside of SL.

Re: Keighley (A) : Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:56 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

2912.

Biggest outside of SL.

Thanks Pal. I thought they looked more than that there.

Re: Keighley (A) : Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:11 pm  

Pickersgill looking like a rough diamond. 15-20 Games in the 17 for him and it will bring him along nicely fo next season.

Re: Keighley (A) : Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:29 pm  

amberavenger wrote:

The Bulls TV version is always going to be better quality as they've had two to three days to get the match off the cameras, compress it and sync it correctly, and upload it using far more data than is probably practical during the live match.

One thing that I imagine is frustrating to people is that Proper Sports are also advertising the Bulls matches as on demand after the event, which is true, but it's simply an archive of the broadcast as was so if there is poor transmission that cuts out at 3pm Sunday, there still will be when you are watching with your Coco Pops on Monday morning.

As an educated guess, so much of this will be reliant on the set ups at the away grounds and some will be better than others, hence I don't think they have guaranteed every away game will be streamed live, more of a "best efforts" sort of thing depending on the state of the ground, internet connections etc. We haven't had a "live" broadcast from Odsal yet just one cup game on delay, and I wonder if the team have done so much testing there over the winter that things might be a bit more consistent as things are more familiar.

Personally I could make out everything that was happening for the vast majority of the time, and there have been times where I've been at a game live and been at one end of the ground not knowing what was happening at the other, so those unfortunate moments where that happened yesterday were no big deal to me. It's a work in progress and I'm glad I got to see the game whereas otherwise I wouldn't have.

I was going to say roughly the same. Gledhill said as much at the start when this was announced. Most League 1 clubs will not have the infrastructure to deal with this so expect it to continue with patchy reception throughout the season.

The fact we struggled to get radio broadcast last year at some championship clubs should suggest as much anyway.

[Bulliac]

Re: Keighley (A) : Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:31 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

The fact that he seemed to make a conscious effort to walk away after being speared rather than get involved in the afters showed he was listening to you

True enough!
My take on the incident though was that it should have been a red. Not that it was malicious, as I don't think it was, but most players, when they realise they have got the ball carrier in a dodgy position gently hold the opponent until he is safely back on the ground but Beharrel (?) just let him drop onto his head. I've seen less sever tackles that that one given red.

That said, as said above, for the sake of the match I'm glad he stayed on.

Re: Keighley (A) : Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:19 am  

Blotto wrote:

Hopefully the Bulls TV version of the match is far better than the quality offered by Proper Sports that had poor video and audio ( although saying that there were some decent silent bits )

Well the Bulls TV version was in HD and no poor/drop out audio, still not sure Proper Sport will be a good vehicle for Bulls unless they up the quality of their live broadcasts, perhaps moving to YouTube may give a better more consistent bandwidth.

Re: Keighley (A) : Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:59 am  

The match on YT is very good, in HD as well. Thanks to all, and the commentary is 1st. Class as well. Downloaded all this years matches and there seems to be a growing excitement about the team.

Re: Keighley (A) : Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:27 am  

Blotto wrote:

Well the Bulls TV version was in HD and no poor/drop out audio, still not sure Proper Sport will be a good vehicle for Bulls unless they up the quality of their live broadcasts, perhaps moving to YouTube may give a better more consistent bandwidth.

Well it's a free service and is better than nothing, so it's not doing any harm. If you read the comments made during the match there are plenty of people watching from some distances away who wouldn't be able to watch otherwise so they are very grateful.
The quality won't be anything to do with facebook/youtube being the host. It's because it's being streamed live / uploaded rather than the later videos which are obviously recordings and compressed.
The quality of the stream relies 100% on the strength/speed of the internet connection being used. If it was a public wifi or (even worse) a public/private mobile network connection like 4G then the stream is always going to be of a very low resolution with potential buffering and dropped frames. If we're using a private broadband/fibre connection at Odsal, which we might be, then you should spot an improvement in the quality of the live broadcast.

Re: Keighley (A) : Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:54 am  

Nothus wrote:

Well it's a free service and is better than nothing, so it's not doing any harm. If you read the comments made during the match there are plenty of people watching from some distances away who wouldn't be able to watch otherwise so they are very grateful.
The quality won't be anything to do with facebook/youtube being the host. It's because it's being streamed live / uploaded rather than the later videos which are obviously recordings and compressed.
The quality of the stream relies 100% on the strength/speed of the internet connection being used. If it was a public wifi or (even worse) a public/private mobile network connection like 4G then the stream is always going to be of a very low resolution with potential buffering and dropped frames. If we're using a private broadband/fibre connection at Odsal, which we might be, then you should spot an improvement in the quality of the live broadcast.

The argument against that would be the BBC Streaming of the Challenge Cup. Which, whilst not HD, is clear and very good quality for a live stream. At grounds much worse than the likes of Keighley.

I'm sure that's down to some specialist equipment BBC will use, but the point remains that it's entirely possible to live stream in good quality from these crappy little grounds.

Re: Keighley (A) : Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:08 am  

HamsterChops wrote:

The argument against that would be the BBC Streaming of the Challenge Cup. Which, whilst not HD, is clear and very good quality for a live stream. At grounds much worse than the likes of Keighley.

I'm sure that's down to some specialist equipment BBC will use, but the point remains that it's entirely possible to live stream in good quality from these crappy little grounds.

Yeah true. I'm not entirely sure how these things work but I don't think bbc broadcasts are 'streamed' directly using a mobile network or a public wifi.