Re: Salford Vs Bulls - SL RD16 : Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:47 pm  

snowie wrote:

:lol: I'm sure Starbug could of endured a few of them yrs your talking about, super league has turned its back on clubs like Leigh to fester in the championship and now the like of them Fev, Fax, sheffield, Donny, Batley and Dewsbury are getting prepared for the onslaught, once these league join there will be a few crapping them selves as we will

Unless there is significant changes to the cap that will allow Leigh, Fev, Fax to be full time, I can't see them getting promoted. I would love them to get promoted, I have always wanted promotion and relegation. But personally I cannot see it.

In reply to Starbug, the only people to come out with any credit from Bulls fiasco the last few years are the Bulls fans. They have stuck by their club through thick and thin. We have applauded our team off countless times when we have been mullered. However it's the lack of effort from the team that is really hurting the fans at the moment!

Anyway Starbug, some saints fans are wanting Brown out and they're top of the league!! I think we're quite patient myself

Re: Salford Vs Bulls - SL RD16 : Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:57 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

Unless there is significant changes to the cap that will allow Leigh, Fev, Fax to be full time, I can't see them getting promoted. I would love them to get promoted, I have always wanted promotion and relegation. But personally I cannot see it.

In reply to Starbug, the only people to come out with any credit from Bulls fiasco the last few years are the Bulls fans. They have stuck by their club through thick and thin. We have applauded our team off countless times when we have been mullered. However it's the lack of effort from the team that is really hurting the fans at the moment!

Anyway Starbug, some saints fans are wanting Brown out and they're top of the league!! I think we're quite patient myself

Sport and RL in particular unlike any other ' normal ' proffession requires massive physical effort combined with highly technical skill, all produced with somebody else doing their best to stop you, again both physically and technically, so to suggest any proffessional RL player has lacked ' effort ' is ridiculous, to do so would be risking serious injury, not forgetting the immense pressure of financial and loyalty impossed by playing for a club that only exists due to its fan base

Re: Salford Vs Bulls - SL RD16 : Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:05 pm  

roofaldo2 wrote:

Let's see if you maintain that attitude should your club go through the sh!tstorm that Bradford have endured over the last few years

If your club ever becomes a farm club to Leeds then you'll know what a real shitstorm is.And if your a real fan and a real bradfordian you'll know what real pain is.
It makes you physically sick when you read some of the shiit people write to try to justify it

Re: Salford Vs Bulls - SL RD16 : Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:10 am  

Starbug wrote:

... to suggest any proffessional RL player has lacked ' effort ' is ridiculous,...

Then Cummins himself is ridiculous, as he has said just that, for example re the Catalans debacle:

“It becomes very difficult after that but when you have a handful of players who are way off the pace, as we did today, then we get embarrassed and that’s what happened.”

Despite being boosted by the return of Manase Manuokafoa, Antonio Kaufusi and James Donaldson, the Bulls were collectively way off the pace and did not seem up for the fight.

Asked if he felt the players had let him down, Cummins said: “They have let themselves down and everyone involved in the club down.

Cummins said: “We knew Wakefield was a big game anyway and hopefully we’ll have a handful of players who are willing to do a job for the team.

“If we have then we won’t be far away. If half a dozen don’t turn up or decide to do something else, then we will get embarrassed again.”

You are strangely looking at the game through rose tinted glasses. Your suggestion that no player in SL ever lacks effort in any game is simplistic, naive and simply not borne out by the evidence of our own eyes.

[Bulliac]

Re: Salford Vs Bulls - SL RD16 : Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:26 am  

There seems to no belief in the team. It was nearly half time, when I think it was maybe embarrassment that took over, before too many in a Bulls' shirt actually ran or tackled with much conviction. Then we got the panicky, must score from every play, sort of moves which always end in finding some way to turn over the ball.

I try to be optimistic but it's getting really hard and I have to say it isn't just the team who have given up on staying in SL. SL is over for now but I'm sure we'll get back someday, things tend to go in circles..

Re: Salford Vs Bulls - SL RD16 : Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:32 am  

Don't panic, your playing us next week.

Re: Salford Vs Bulls - SL RD16 : Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:19 am  

Also I dont think enough credit has been given to the Devils who at last seem to be bonding under Iestyn Harris. Bulls could well beat HKR next week as we drew with them when not firing at all.

Re: Salford Vs Bulls - SL RD16 : Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:19 am  

rover49 wrote:

Don't panic, your playing us next week.

Yes, come on over and help yourself to two points. And improve your points difference.

Re: Salford Vs Bulls - SL RD16 : Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:20 am  

Early Bath wrote:

Bulls could well beat HKR next week.

Don't be so silly. Unless of course they do turn up next week, when we are playing them on Friday.

Re: Salford Vs Bulls - SL RD16 : Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:06 am  

Starbug wrote:

Sport and RL in particular unlike any other ' normal ' proffession requires massive physical effort combined with highly technical skill, all produced with somebody else doing their best to stop you, again both physically and technically, so to suggest any proffessional RL player has lacked ' effort ' is ridiculous, to do so would be risking serious injury, not forgetting the immense pressure of financial and loyalty impossed by playing for a club that only exists due to its fan base

Anyone who has played sport or RL in particular, whether amateur or pro, knows when they or another player has not put in 100%. I generally tried very hard, some times harder than the week before. To compare the Wigan youngsters effort to some of the Bulls' performances is laughable.