Re: O/T - General Election : Tue May 09, 2017 3:25 pm  

So you want to Vote for massive cuts to education? Yes that's right - the education of CHILDREN. By our reckoning, thanks to the reduction in spending, next year we may have to cut 3 teachers. So who is going to teach the classes? Any ideas?

Thanks Tory voters, sleep well knowing the country will be strong and f*****g stable.

Re: O/T - General Election : Tue May 09, 2017 3:35 pm  

debaser wrote:

Thanks Tory voters, sleep well knowing the country will be strong and f*****g stable.

With the SNP in a strong position MY country will NEVER be stable.

I would rather face the Tory way than the complete uncertainty and financially un-viable view of the SNP who will make cuts to more than just education.

Still, why blame the Tories? Teflon Tony told us that he was only interested in "Education, Education and Education"

We all know how that ended up didn't we?

Imagine how much the education system would have benefitted from the billions of quid spunked away on an illegal war by Tony and his cronies?

[Bullseye]

Re: O/T - General Election : Tue May 09, 2017 3:38 pm  

Hopefully you'll keep your job debaser.

Over here in the NHS things are hanging by a thread. Things put in place to deal with an emergency 5 years ago are now normal business. Staff are leaving my place and we've got heaps of vacancies we can't fill.

Think the NHS and education will be toast before the next election.

Re: O/T - General Election : Tue May 09, 2017 3:43 pm  

The problem is, our democracy works best when there is a strong & confident opposition, scrutinising everything the government does & forcing them to "play fair" for want of a better expression.

Kim Jong-May doesn't tolerate opposition, as far as I can see. She also feels that she doesn't actually have to meet or talk to the voters either. She's for the betterment of the top 25%, big business, corporate greed & invasion of privacy. The last one I suppose is marginally better than invasion of sovereign countries, but there you go....

The NHS is about to die. The only (tiny) silver lining is that the party which is in power when it goes, will be blamed and unelectable for a generation.

There's no way I could vote for her.

[Bullseye]

Re: O/T - General Election : Tue May 09, 2017 3:52 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

Imagine how much the education system would have benefitted from the billions of quid spunked away on an illegal war by Tony and his cronies?

Well indeed but the Tories voted for that war too.

If you're bothered about public services like health and education don't vote Conservative, or if you do don't moan when they're suffering from cuts.

Re: O/T - General Election : Tue May 09, 2017 4:02 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Well indeed but the Tories voted for that war too.

If you're bothered about public services like health and education don't vote Conservative, or if you do don't moan when they're suffering from cuts.

I am not moaning about these cuts though.

As I have said, I am voting Tory as it is in MY best interest at the moment (after all that is why we vote is it not?)

The cuts that would result from an SNP led Independent Scotland are far more of a concern to me than anything else.

With the exception of the Blair years, Labour do not get re-elected after one term in office. There have to be reasons for this?

[Bullseye]

Re: O/T - General Election : Tue May 09, 2017 4:12 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

I am not moaning about these cuts though.

As I have said, I am voting Tory as it is in MY best interest at the moment (after all that is why we vote is it not?)

The cuts that would result from an SNP led Independent Scotland are far more of a concern to me than anything else.

With the exception of the Blair years, Labour do not get re-elected after one term in office. There have to be reasons for this?

Fair enough.

Speaking personally I don't just consider what's best for me alone when I decide who to vote for. For instance I'd do alright from some Tory policies but there are bigger things at stake. People less well off than me deserve a break IMO.

Labour have struggled to get re-elected without Blair because Blair's appeal went beyond the core Labour vote and attracted voters that supported other parties.

That's the reason the current Labour Party will never get elected. They can have hundreds of thousands of members but that won't make a difference in the key marginals.

Labour has to appeal to more than just the left of the party and all the recent "blow ins" from other fringe parties or what's the point?

Re: O/T - General Election : Tue May 09, 2017 4:18 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Fair enough.

Speaking personally I don't just consider what's best for me alone when I decide who to vote for. For instance I'd do alright from some Tory policies but there are bigger things at stake. People less well off than me deserve a break IMO.

Labour have struggled to get re-elected without Blair because Blair's appeal went beyond the core Labour vote and attracted voters that supported other parties.

That's the reason the current Labour Party will never get elected. They can have hundreds of thousands of members but that won't make a difference in the key marginals.

Labour has to appeal to more than just the left of the party and all the recent "blow ins" from other fringe parties or what's the point?

Well my view is that an Independent Scotland would be Armageddon so I am thinking long-term as well as for the here and now. I have never voted Tory in my life and my family are real Labour people, but it is not working.

I never thought I would vote Tory but I need the SNP out and then I can get back to voting with my heart rather than my head.

[Bullseye]

Re: O/T - General Election : Tue May 09, 2017 4:23 pm  

Do you reckon there's a serious chance of another referendum and independence? I'm not so sure. The SNP bang on about it but I think a lot of it is hot air.

Re: O/T - General Election : Tue May 09, 2017 4:42 pm  

It's closer than you think. Scotland voted 55:45 for the Union.
But 65:35 to remain in Europe

And the choice for a 2nd referendum would be between Independence & back into Europe
and Union and staying out of Europe.

2 opposing voting blocks, on the same ticket. Flip a coin time I would think.