: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:50 am  

Bullpower wrote:

:shock: somewhat selective reading/understanding there IMHO ME . . . .

Not really. The self same poster that claims that I should not voice an opinion because I was not at the game (a common view held by some on here I am afraid), then goes on to say that Hull KR at home should be a "good two points", which is a point that I had made and was being slated for making.

Anyway, you were not at the game BP so your opinion is worthless.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:52 am  

mystic eddie wrote:

The problem is that when people are so one-eyed, biased and completely impartial against their team then any criticism towards said team will never be considered to be "balanced and considered."

The argument also works the other way as well ME

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:01 am  

Cookie wrote:

The argument also works the other way as well ME

indeed it can, but i will give credit where it is due. I realise that criticising does not fall under the remit of many bradford fans but needs must sometimes.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:06 am  

Despite the scoreline, I don't think yesterday's performance was that bad; yes, there was a lack of cohesion at times (particulary with the halves and Newton) however given the disruption we had with injuries and the lack of meaningful preparation I didn't think this was too bad a performance.
I think people have a tendency to underestimate the impact that the cancelled friendly and league game had on our preparataion, and this will have been compounded by the lack of outdoor training caused by the recent bad weather.

The pack today were excellent, and completely dominatated a pretty good opposition pack. There's not many teams that will completely contain a set of fowards containing Fozzard, Vella, Newton and Galea. I lost count the number of times that the Hull KR players were completely smashed and driven back several yards.

From my point of view, this performance was very similar to Leeds' opening game against Celtic.... the difference being that we didn't have the luxury of playing a fixture that had been scheduled by the RFL to aid our preparation for a later showpiece game (against a team newly promoted to Super League.)

A few tactical changes by McNamara, a bit more cohesion, and I think this will be a fairly successful season.

Last thing to note; Scruton should have been MoM... his performance yesterday was immense! Leeds loss is definitely our gain.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:15 am  

Ginger wrote:

Despite the scoreline, I don't think yesterday's performance was that bad; yes, there was a lack of cohesion at times (particulary with the halves and Newton) however given the disruption we had with injuries and the lack of meaningful preparation I didn't think this was too bad a performance.
I think people have a tendency to underestimate the impact that the cancelled friendly and league game had on our preparataion, and this will have been compounded by the lack of outdoor training caused by the recent bad weather.

The pack today were excellent, and completely dominatated a pretty good opposition pack. There's not many teams that will completely contain a set of fowards containing Fozzard, Vella, Newton and Galea. I lost count the number of times that the Hull KR players were completely smashed and driven back several yards.

From my point of view, this performance was very similar to Leeds' opening game against Celtic.... the difference being that we didn't have the luxury of playing a fixture that had been scheduled by the RFL to aid our preparation for a later showpiece game (against a team newly promoted to Super League.)

A few tactical changes by McNamara, a bit more cohesion, and I think this will be a fairly successful season.

Last thing to note; Scruton should have been MoM... his performance yesterday was immense! Leeds loss is definitely our gain.

Agree 100% with the above.

I was happy with a point with ten minutes left with the scores at 12-12 and as I read League Express this morning, Im still happy with a point.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:20 am  

I agree that Scruton should have been MoM. Apart from the mistake which lead to the Hull KR 2nd try he had a top game.

My big worry is that some of the squad look very confused at what Deacs,Jefferies,Newts and Wagga is going to do? Maybe because it was the 1st game i dunno but there was nobody running onto the ball and we were very flat during most of the game. I think Jefferies played very poorly yesterday but we dont really have much of a choice than play him.

My player ratings

Platt: Go forward for god sake! 6
Sherrife: Looked fairly dangerous and Quick 7
Sykes : Should be FB 7
Nero : Has a lot to proove after a poor last season 6
Tadulala : Didnt really get the Ball 6
Jefferies : Poor. Dropped the ball and couldnt pass 5
Deacon : Fairly solid performance 7
Burgess : Still looked a little unfit but solid as usual 8
Newton : Ok but lacked a bit of creativity 7
Scruton : MOM. Provided hits and took ball forward 9
Morrison : Same as sam, looked a little unfit 7
Beaver : Class player when he settles in 7
Langley : So unlucky with Injuries 6

Wagga: Same as Newton, Creativity needed 6
Solomona : Cut out losses and get rid! 5
Cook: Still unsure whether he warrants a place 6
Kopckak: Good performance when used 7

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:23 am  

mystic eddie wrote:

indeed it can, but i will give credit where it is due. I realise that criticising does not fall under the remit of many bradford fans but needs must sometimes.

Can't see many posts on here about yesterdays game that aren't criticising some part of it / some player / some play.

Given that AP doesn't seem to be around and the 10 game thing fell by the wayside, how about trying a like for like critique for the next 9 game. Every negative being isn't partnered with a positive

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:02 am  

Bullpower wrote:

Can't see many posts on here about yesterdays game that aren't criticising some part of it / some player / some play.

Given that AP doesn't seem to be around and the 10 game thing fell by the wayside, how about trying a like for like critique for the next 9 game. Every negative being isn't partnered with a positive

We will see how it all pans out in the coming weeks. However, i cannot comment on any positives until i see them in the flesh.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:14 pm  

Wild Child LukeSykes83 wrote:

or hoe about th try that was dissallowed even though thgere was nothing wrong with it as for rovers being mediorty your wrong well be up there this year, but i will strech my neck ouyt to say that bradfored will be top 3 this year. maybe.

Hope you haven't hurt your neck there Luke predicting Bulls to finish in the top 3 maybe!!!

Very brave of you to come off the fence and make such a prediction.

I am going to put my reputation on the line and say Rover will finish bottom of the league, but they might not!!

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:52 pm  

I thought it was very hard fought competetive game yesterday. In hindsight a draw was propbably about a fair result, Bulls kept possession well (without threatening too much) and KR defended solidly.

Looking at Bulls as an outsider I thought generally you looked pretty good, us not to punching a hole through a a line with Vella, fozz and makka hitting it wont happen too often and it showed when Morgan decided to give up on that and to go with one prop for a lot of the 2nd half.

Menzies looks a top player as did scruton and morrison,

Newton and Deacon were dissappointing and lacked a bit of match readiness but I'm certain that will come for you and I think you'll be top 4 this year.

I'm glad we got that fixture out of the way and wouldn;t fancy it when you're up to speed

We've just got a small matter of Leeds on Friday so lets hope we can hold the ball a bit more and a if we defend like yesterday we may be able to show a few that we are a team to be reckoned with.