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Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Wed May 11, 2016 4:29 pm  
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Just because a new coach comes in, doesn't change the fact that you can't just release a player from his contract and not pay him off (therefore still counting on salary cap). He'll still be in the predicament of having to find a new club for the players he doesn't want, in order to get them off the wage bill.

At the end of the season, sure, some players will no doubt be off. But I can't see it being immediately after he arrives. What club in their right mind would take Lauaki off our hands?


We've got 18, according to my figures, not including Chris Ulugia, who are ooc at the end of the year, so that's a fair old lump of cap money becoming available for next year.

The thing for me, is that I don't have any faith in anyone being promoted under the current system. So it makes little difference to me whether Smithy just lets this season go [yes, I know that's not going to happen - and I also know, full well, what the 'official line' is likely to be] and then after a big leaving do [not for all 18, obviously 'cos we'll want to keep quite few of them, imo] we' can make a fresh start and hope a few background things change.

I do expect that there will be some signings for this year, possibly even a half-back, but whatever the official policy, I'd expect any major signings to be for next year, though announced this season. Would that bother a lot of fans? Well, yes it probably would, I'm sure, but, as a long term fan who'll be here whatever, I'll be quite happy to ride with that, to be honest.
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Wed May 11, 2016 6:30 pm  
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The thing for me, is that I don't have any faith in anyone being promoted under the current system.

Might not need to be promoted things could be a changing.
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Wed May 11, 2016 6:37 pm  
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Might not need to be promoted things could be a changing.


Oh aye. You need to hang a little more meat on those bones.
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Wed May 11, 2016 7:38 pm  
Does a players' salary still count on the cap once they make an appearance? Because we've a handful of players who have only played once or twice.
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Wed May 11, 2016 8:03 pm  
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Does a players' salary still count on the cap once they make an appearance? Because we've a handful of players who have only played once or twice.


once they make an appearance they count towards salary cap. not sure if that just applies for the current season or for every year they are contracted for though. Eg Walshaw played last year but hasn't featured yet this year ( he seems to have disappeared without trace TBF). He counted towards salary cap last year but does that also mean he counts towards cap this year,or does he have to make an appearance this year to count?.
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Wed May 11, 2016 8:11 pm  
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once they make an appearance they count towards salary cap. not sure if that just applies for the current season or for every year they are contracted for though. Eg Walshaw played last year but hasn't featured yet this year ( he seems to have disappeared without trace TBF). He counted towards salary cap last year but does that also mean he counts towards cap this year,or does he have to make an appearance this year to count?.

I always assumed it was per season.

Still, a fair chunk of the cap has been wasted on those who have only played once or twice this season. :roll:
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Wed May 11, 2016 8:20 pm  
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Might not need to be promoted things could be a changing.


Come on Red you big tease. You can't say that and walk away.

Spill the beans. What have you heard?
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Wed May 11, 2016 8:21 pm  
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a fair chunk of the cap has been wasted on those who have only played once or twice this season. :roll:


It's amazing that despite having such a bloated squad I think only two haven't yet appeared this season - Walshaw and Mendeika (plus Halahifi who got shipped out for the season)

But there's a fair few with only one or two appearances

Still, the fact that we've used 32 players so far might explain the somewhat disjointed appearances.
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Thu May 12, 2016 8:34 am  
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Might not need to be promoted things could be a changing.


Ah come on red, you can't leave us hanging like that! You're not one for posting made up rubbish so you've peaked our interest....what's the next line?
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Thu May 12, 2016 9:22 am  
Interesting in todays T&A, sounds like Smith definitely has plans to bring a couple of players in from NRL and is hoping to get some in on loan from Warrington.
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