Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:01 pm  

daveyz999 wrote:

Haha - are u suggesting that we may not have a board to post on....

That hadn't occurred to me ...


Yet ...

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:02 pm  

Nat (Rugby_Aholic) wrote:

Your correct about the summer bash, maybe a team should be promoted and given the extra funding available. There are a few players available now. What makes a zero day old Bradford club with no history or track record more worthy than Donny, Barrow or Keighley?

I understand its an emotive subject, but the fact is the new club has no history or standing in the game. Purely a geographical location. Putting the new club into the Championship is a cop out from the RFL who don't want to have to work out the technicalities.

It means that the RFL have someone paying the rent on Odsal and contributing to its upkeep. This both spares the blushes of the RFL and its bank balance. Further I would guess that it will be only too happy for whoever it is to take Odsal off its hands completely! The plus side for the incoming club would be £150k to offset costs in the first year, after which the Bulls will be quietly allowed to drop into Ch1, and the RFL will not be left with any white elephants (apart, possibly, from fat Nige).

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:02 pm  

Nat (Rugby_Aholic) wrote:

Your correct about the summer bash, maybe a team should be promoted and given the extra funding available. There are a few players available now. What makes a zero day old Bradford club with no history or track record more worthy than Donny, Barrow or Keighley?

I understand its an emotive subject, but the fact is the new club has no history or standing in the game. Purely a geographical location. Putting the new club into the Championship is a cop out from the RFL who don't want to have to work out the technicalities.

There is no extra funding. Read the statement a new club would be entitled to the minimum central funding with the difference going towards closing the current club. RFL will end up with a lot of costs to cover over this.

I only want what's best for Bradford Bulls in the long term and that I feel means a proper set up with a proper plan. IMO that means sitting out this year and applying with finances, a new ground and players roster and coaching set up in place.

If that means as a part time CHamp 1 team then so be it.

Do I care that the other clubs and RFL will be out of pocket in the short term? Not really. I think it's bad but the blame lies squarely with the people that casued this not the players, staff or fans of the now liquidated club.

I don't even feel like revenge against small minded idiots like you. Yes your club would lose out on cash it probably budgeted for but I don't gain any pleasure out of that. Bigger issues right now.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:03 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Possibly – possibly not!

~rubs hands together and laughs in an evil manner~

Don't deprive us of the one consolation we have in all this mess

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:04 pm  

Just to add – I understand you're all feeling incredibly and understandably pîssed off/on, but thank you for keeping this as civil as you have under the circumstances – and thank you too, to the Bulls mods who just want to try to facilitate real discussion, while understanding that venting is 110% understandable.

So thank you from the entire admin team – and we join you in hoping for the best for the club, which is an integral part of the RL family.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:05 pm  

bullsonfire wrote:

But has the cloth been cut accordingly?

Yes. But apparently not accordingly enough.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:06 pm  

Top story on Radio 2 news

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:06 pm  

HamsterChops wrote: Further details of why Championship place has been offered, and under what sanctions here So clubs are offered cap dispensations if they sign redundant players, making it more challenging to put together a competitive squad for any new buyer. Those people saying we should be Championship 1 will see their wishes granted one year later. To give any new club the best chance of long term success, we should start life in C1, where we may win a few games rather than being the whipping boys in the championship

HamsterChops wrote: Further details of why Championship place has been offered, and under what sanctions here So clubs are offered cap dispensations if they sign redundant players, making it more challenging to put together a competitive squad for any new buyer. Those people saying we should be Championship 1 will see their wishes granted one year later. To give any new club the best chance of long term success, we should start life in C1, where we may win a few games rather than being the whipping boys in the championship

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:06 pm  

paulwalker71 wrote:

Don't deprive us of the one consolation we have in all this mess

I know from personal experience that watching your team suffer is utter crap. I won't/can't offer false 'consolation', but I want the admin team's appreciation of the approach here to be public.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:07 pm  

roger daly wrote:

Top story on Radio 2 news

The sports section after the main news I presume