Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:11 am  

+ 1. Odsal's time is done. The only reason I can see they want to go back it the clause FA spoke about whereby if CBMDC kick the Bulls out they must provide an alternative, suitable stadium.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:22 am  

Scarey71 wrote:

+ 1. Odsal's time is done. The only reason I can see they want to go back it the clause FA spoke about whereby if CBMDC kick the Bulls out they must provide an alternative, suitable stadium.

CBMDC don't need to 'kick the Bulls out'. They've left of their own volition so why would such a clause, if it exists, to be invoked?

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:40 am  

It's worrying that the talk seems to be moving more and more towards a return to Odsal.

One gets the feeling that, if 'a deal' can be done we are going to be back to Odsal in 2021 (at the latest).

Do we really want to go back to standing out on crumbling terraces with the rain pouring down on our heads? The ground issue is about much more than whether we can get BMDC to knock a few quid off the rates bill. The place isn't fit for purpose in this day and age.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:58 am  

Mr Dog wrote:

CBMDC don't need to 'kick the Bulls out'. They've left of their own volition so why would such a clause, if it exists, to be invoked?

Don't you wonder why the new lot are desperate to get back asap. Even to the point of putting the offices and shop back there already?

[Bulliac]

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:54 pm  

Scarey71 wrote:

Don't you wonder why the new lot are desperate to get back asap. Even to the point of putting the offices and shop back there already?

For some reason there are parts of the stadium which, apparently, were never included in the lease but belong to Bfd Met. It is this area, which includes the lottery office and I believe the old VP's lounge/cum media area, so technically they are renting some buildings from the council but haven't "gone back" to the leased area.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:10 pm  

paulwalker71 wrote:

It's worrying that the talk seems to be moving more and more towards a return to Odsal.

One gets the feeling that, if 'a deal' can be done we are going to be back to Odsal in 2021 (at the latest).

Do we really want to go back to standing out on crumbling terraces with the rain pouring down on our heads? The ground issue is about much more than whether we can get BMDC to knock a few quid off the rates bill. The place isn't fit for purpose in this day and age.

I agree that it is worrying that people can be suggesting a move back to Odsal. Having spent too many wet seasons on the terraces "enjoying" summer rugby, it will be good to watch the boys in relative comfort under a roof, especially in Jan, Feb, Mar, and April. The rent / rates at Odsal, will surely never be reduced to a level whereby a championship side can afford to play from there. And even if they were, do we really think it would be acceptable to continue to put up with the old place which is now becoming an embarrassment.

My view is that, having now left Odsal, a return there would be a retrograde step. We need a fresh start, including playing out of a new stadium. Unfortunately, I cannot see us ever being able to afford a new stadium, so the only alternative to the pile that is Odsal appears to be a permanent ground share. That won't be to everyone's liking, but at least we'll still have a team to support. Unfortunately, the problem reverts back to the question - who would we share with on a permanent basis? Difficult

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:12 pm  

if we go back to odsal we might as well insist on going back to winter rugby too. A threat like that will do for the fan base, such as it is.

Not sure if anybody has mentioned it but there will be a series of leases and sub leases, what title/lease BMDC and the RFL have I cannot remember, but one thing is clear: The Bulls do not, so how this land grab affects the bulls is a mystery to me.

either Chalmers or his backer(s) put £1.2m into the club over the two years published accounts. so it follows that it is Chalmers or his backers that have written off all or most or part of that. And if the backer was Wood, then he is a serious masochist or has soooo deep pockets to be back around for more.

final observation/comment/request:

can someone put a poll type topic up please? the question being along the lines of "Whose answers to our questions are the most transparent? the two answer options being 1) BBBBB and 2) Nestegg

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:38 pm  

Welp, I've just got my response back from 'Ask the Bulls' despite not being a 2020 season ticket holder. They have gone a way to answer my questions, and the one "Why should we trust you?" was answered as succinctly as it could be:

Quite simply they are people who care about the club and have committed to get involved and pledge personal resources to assist the club. They, like yourself, have spent many years on the terraces and in the stands at Odsal and simply want to see the club perform properly. The most significant fact is that there is a lot of rugby league experience and knowledge at the club and the hope is that the boom/bust cycle is consigned to the past.

We can understand your scepticism, and the only reassurance we can offer is that the new owners are not people who have previously been involved. There is no shortcut or alternative other than to ask that our performance is actually judged, not those of previous regimes.

While I haven't got a whole lot of faith in anyone involved in the Bulls at the moment, this seems to be a positive start. And (let's face it) getting any response at all is a plus!

It hasn't sold me a season ticket though. Actions, not words, are needed.

[Bulliac]

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:45 pm  

To be right, the 'boom/bust' cycle was bad enough but it's the bust/bust/bust cycle which is really killing me.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:30 pm  

can someone ask them when we are getting some nore props please?