Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Thu May 12, 2016 9:42 am  

Bull Mania wrote:

Interesting in todays T&A, sounds like Smith definitely has plans to bring a couple of players in from NRL and is hoping to get some in on loan from Warrington.

Ryan Bailey maybe.

Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Thu May 12, 2016 9:46 am  

mat wrote:

once they make an appearance they count towards salary cap. not sure if that just applies for the current season or for every year they are contracted for though. Eg Walshaw played last year but hasn't featured yet this year ( he seems to have disappeared without trace TBF). He counted towards salary cap last year but does that also mean he counts towards cap this year,or does he have to make an appearance this year to count?.

A Club’s “Players” are the 25 Players registered with the Club who have the highest Salary Cap Values at the time in question, whether or not they have played for the Club in a Salary Cap Relevant Match in the Salary Cap Year to that date,

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Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Thu May 12, 2016 10:23 am  

chissitt wrote:

Ryan Bailey maybe.

Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Fri May 13, 2016 8:55 am  

Duckman wrote:

Ah come on red, you can't leave us hanging like that! You're not one for posting made up rubbish so you've peaked our interest....what's the next line?

The next line is.....

"because the RFL are positively shitttting themselves that their beloved Leeds could end up going down so they are hastily looking at ways to end the possibility of this happening."

In fairness, would SL not be better as a 16 team competition for example? I am certain that the league would hardly be weakened by the inclusion of the top 4 from the Championship going up the season and a proper P&R being introduced (2 up 2 down) from the following season?

For too long now proper RL sides like Fev, Fax etc have been pretty much devoid of any hope of ever getting into the top flight and this, to me, is wrong.

Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Fri May 13, 2016 9:01 am  

mystic eddie wrote:

The next line is.....

"because the RFL are positively shitttting themselves that their beloved Leeds could end up going down so they are hastily looking at ways to end the possibility of this happening."

In fairness, would SL not be better as a 16 team competition for example? I am certain that the league would hardly be weakened by the inclusion of the top 4 from the Championship going up the season and a proper P&R being introduced (2 up 2 down) from the following season?

For too long now proper RL sides like Fev, Fax etc have been pretty much devoid of any hope of ever getting into the top flight and this, to me, is wrong.

Think this is a brilliant idea (not only as we will be shunted up) if the NRL has 16 why cant we. Or even do 15 with Us Leigh and London going up. The issue I would have is amount of games players can play as with30 league games internationals and challenge cup the teams that go far will be having a lot. I think if it were to happen there should be a limit on amount of games players can play say 25 in the league im sure they used to do that in Oz

Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Fri May 13, 2016 9:10 am  

thepimp007 wrote:

I think if it were to happen there should be a limit on amount of games players can play say 25 in the league im sure they used to do that in Oz

If this was the case then I am fairly sure that clubs would target specific games to "rest" their main players and it could easily work. The problem is though the Magic weekend which would either add a game on, or else half the teams would have to forfeit one home game.

Personally, I would just do away with it as it has never really been much of a success anyway.

As for internationals? Do we really play that many anyway? And, further to that, England would only face two or three "tough" games a season as there are only three teams who operate at the top level?

Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Fri May 13, 2016 9:13 am  

thepimp007 wrote:

The issue I would have is amount of games players can play as with30 league games internationals and challenge cup the teams that go far will be having a lot.

How's that different to what the current format is? They currently already play 30 league games (23 in first stage and then 7 in the Middle 8s).

Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Fri May 13, 2016 9:16 am  

thepimp007 wrote:

Think this is a brilliant idea (not only as we will be shunted up)

We would? Hmmm..... { looks suspiciously at the league table }

thepimp007 wrote:

I think if it were to happen there should be a limit on amount of games players can play say 25 in the league im sure they used to do that in Oz

I'm not sure I buy into this burnout stuff. What we need is vbfg to do a graphic showing how many minutes of actual physical play your average first team starter plays in a season.

Games are 80 minutes but a large slice of that is stoppages in play. Then many players are interchanged and don't play the full "80" anyway. Plus, not that many players are ever-present in the starting 13. Plus, most players have enforced rests through injury, form etc. I know vbfg can do this.

Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Fri May 13, 2016 9:26 am  

mystic eddie wrote:

If this was the case then I am fairly sure that clubs would target specific games to "rest" their main players and it could easily work. The problem is though the Magic weekend which would either add a game on, or else half the teams would have to forfeit one home game.

Or alternate who loses a home game each year.

Should be pretty easy to work out!

Re: Recruitment & Retention Latest : Fri May 13, 2016 9:27 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

I'm not sure I buy into this burnout stuff. What we need is vbfg to do a graphic showing how many minutes of actual physical play your average first team starter plays in a season.

Games are 80 minutes but a large slice of that is stoppages in play. Then many players are interchanged and don't play the full "80" anyway. Plus, not that many players are ever-present in the starting 13. Plus, most players have enforced rests through injury, form etc. I know vbfg can do this.

Tend to agree - 30 games a year should be doable - yes it's a physical sport - but they are full time athletes!