Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:40 pm  

Kosh wrote:

Nope. For a start, we didn't have franchising back then. For second, both Hull and Gateshead were existing members of SL. And finally of course neither club was in administration.

Other than that a perfect analogy.

Hull had gone out of business and were refused entry in the lower league as a new club, Gateshead moved down south to Hull and set up business leaving Hull to go bust and Gateshead were able to register twice as many players as everyone else, did you forget about that part?

The Hull club to this day are registered as Hull Super League LTD!!!!

It shows that the RFL will allow a club to up sticks and move, i,e Gateshead moving to Hull!!!

But I guess you missed the point and need things explaining like a small child!!!!

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:03 pm  

FONT wrote: Hull had gone out of business and were refused entry in the lower league as a new club, Gateshead moved down south to Hull and set up business leaving Hull to go bust and Gateshead were able to register twice as many players as everyone else, did you forget about that part? The Hull club to this day are registered as Hull Super League LTD!!!! It shows that the RFL will allow a club to up sticks and move, i,e Gateshead moving to Hull!!! But I guess you missed the point and need things explaining like a small child!!!! Thought you might like to read this interesting article:- http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 41473.html If my memory serves me correctly (and it's not as good as it was ) all Super League clubs had shares in Hull FC for a time.

FONT wrote: Hull had gone out of business and were refused entry in the lower league as a new club, Gateshead moved down south to Hull and set up business leaving Hull to go bust and Gateshead were able to register twice as many players as everyone else, did you forget about that part? The Hull club to this day are registered as Hull Super League LTD!!!! It shows that the RFL will allow a club to up sticks and move, i,e Gateshead moving to Hull!!! But I guess you missed the point and need things explaining like a small child!!!! Thought you might like to read this interesting article:- http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 41473.html If my memory serves me correctly (and it's not as good as it was ) all Super League clubs had shares in Hull FC for a time.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:17 pm  

Heritage wrote: Thought you might like to read this interesting article:- http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 41473.html If my memory serves me correctly (and it's not as good as it was ) all Super League clubs had shares in Hull FC for a time. I don't think they did!!!!

Heritage wrote: Thought you might like to read this interesting article:- http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 41473.html If my memory serves me correctly (and it's not as good as it was ) all Super League clubs had shares in Hull FC for a time. I don't think they did!!!!

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:25 pm  

I've just been assured by someone who was involved with the Bulls in a senior capacity at the time that this was indeed the case and that these shares appeared on the Bulls balance sheet (and presumably that of the other clubs).

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:33 pm  

Heritage wrote:

Fair enough. I thought I'd seen it in the club accounts a few years back(The Bulls Accounts, that is.)

A fellow accountant!

If you did see it in the Bulls accounts then it was never made public!!!

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:37 pm  

FONT wrote:

A fellow accountant!

If you did see it in the Bulls accounts then it was never made public!!!

I received a copy of the accounts, as a shareholder of the club (albeit a very minor shareholder!!), in the Annual Report.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:58 pm  

Heritage wrote:

I received a copy of the accounts, as a shareholder of the club (albeit a very minor shareholder!!), in the Annual Report.

I see, it would be interesting to know if all the SL clubs have had a stake in the same club in the past!!!

I am not sure this would have had to happen in the Hull and Gateshead situation though.

[Pumpetypump]

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:22 pm  

These articles that mention Bulls fan Ian Whitehead never seem to explain who he is exactly. Just a random fan?, from Bullbuilder? Can someone illuminate me? http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ecrecy___/

These articles that mention Bulls fan Ian Whitehead never seem to explain who he is exactly. Just a random fan?, from Bullbuilder? Can someone illuminate me? http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ecrecy___/

[Bulliac]

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:24 pm  

Heritage wrote: Thought you might like to read this interesting article:- http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 41473.html If my memory serves me correctly (and it's not as good as it was ) all Super League clubs had shares in Hull FC for a time. It was around the time when Gateshead 'took over' Hull FC then moved, lock stock and barrel, to the Boulevard, changed their colours to black and white and their name to Hull FC. IIRC their coach at the time was Shaun McRae, who moved with many of the players from the Thunderdome to the Boulevard. I think the shareholding by other clubs was to facilitate the take over. I think it's fair to say the circumstances weren't exactly the same, but the old Hull FC club were in dire straits and the reverse takeover saved them - and unfortunately killed Gateshead of course. There is nothing new in in other clubs taking shares a in a troubled club.

Heritage wrote: Thought you might like to read this interesting article:- http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 41473.html If my memory serves me correctly (and it's not as good as it was ) all Super League clubs had shares in Hull FC for a time. It was around the time when Gateshead 'took over' Hull FC then moved, lock stock and barrel, to the Boulevard, changed their colours to black and white and their name to Hull FC. IIRC their coach at the time was Shaun McRae, who moved with many of the players from the Thunderdome to the Boulevard. I think the shareholding by other clubs was to facilitate the take over. I think it's fair to say the circumstances weren't exactly the same, but the old Hull FC club were in dire straits and the reverse takeover saved them - and unfortunately killed Gateshead of course. There is nothing new in in other clubs taking shares a in a troubled club.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:37 pm  

so Fev would have to move to Odsal if they buy them out as you have to have approval from the RFL to change ground