Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:34 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

So we remain in the Championship starting on -12 points but with no players, staff or coach currently signed up. Season starts in a month and we are away to Hull KR...

Not sure why fans from other clubs feel the need to come on here giving us crap, ...

Because the above is NOT ENOUGH, we - that is, the Bulls fans - must repay all the debts. Personally. Cos it is our fault.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:35 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

So we remain in the Championship starting on -12 points but with no players, staff or coach currently signed up. Season starts in a month and we are away to Hull KR...

Not sure why fans from other clubs feel the need to come on here giving us crap, because I sure don't feel like we have much to look forward to in 2017 anyway. The end result looks to be the same to me. I guess it really all hinges on who takes the club on and what level they wish to see the club operate at.

Relegation next year a certainty. No one messed about this year. RFL get to keep a club at Odsal.
No money, no support, as who is going to pay to watch a ramshackle team get smashed every week?

Shall we start Administration 4 2017 thread now?

[Bullseye]

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:36 pm  

The Fax board is quite restrained at the moment. Only Nat has taken enough umbrage to come on here.

The Wakey board is slightly less restrained but what they've got to be bitter about is anyone's guess.

After today the last thing that bothers me is what others think. I suggest we look forward to the next round of the rumour mill which will be beginning in earnest to reach an exciting conclusion within the next week or so. To anyone out there forming a new club I still have a pair of boots in my car and might be persuaded to come out of retirement.

The RFL solution feels a bit like when we limped through the 2012 season. 2017 will be the same but with a fraction of the supporters and probably see us lose nearly every game...if we even make it to the start line.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:37 pm  

roger daly wrote:

No, the main news. Just goes to show we are still a big club and rugby league needs us

Shhhh you have the fax fans foaming at the mouth1 'No Longer a big club' and all that

[Bullseye]

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:37 pm  

[Nat (Rugby_Aholic)]

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:37 pm  

My reaction to this comes from a place of paranoia, I will admit it. Its a result of being on the bad end of RFLs favouritism of certain clubs for several years. We get denied a franchise for years when clubs like Broncos and Celtic are given every advantage and squander it. I can't help but imagine the assurances they will have given the new owners in private. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it emerged that you weren't able to be relegated for two seasons, as you are a newly formed expansion club "expanding" down the M606. That is how much I trust the RFL, nothing at all to do with Bradford. You are just the latest "benificiarys" of the RFL's make it up as you go along approach.

The game is dying on its booty because the RFL are the most incompetent administrators of professional sport in the world. They make Fifa look like a well run machine. The situation you find yourselves in today attests to that.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:38 pm  

Making Bulls 2017 in the absence of a millionaire backer play in the Championship sounds like utter madness, so perhaps there is a bit more to it than meets the eye.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:38 pm  

Am I missing something here?

To start the season on -12 and avoid relegation, we would either need to go full time again or at the very least have a decent quality part time side. However all the best part time players are already signed up, so that isn't really an option. So we once again full time on lowest funding in a desperate attempt to retain Championship status, if we fail are we surely not back in the same boat and facing financial problems again? Even if we manage to avoid relegation, we have another season in 2018 on lowest funding to contend with. Whoever comes in, either has some big shortfalls to cover or 2017 is just a year of making up the numbers before dropping into League 1.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:39 pm  

debaser wrote:

Shall we start Administration 4 2017 thread now?

Start it now. 460 pages is a helluva target.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:40 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

It does seem odd for any new club to be potentially allowed to remain in the championship in 2017 but those that aren't happy about it from other clubs will soon get their wish to see Bradford in League 1 as survival in the championship would be virtually impossible. The team (if there is one) would be made up of players not wanted anywhere else. The coach? Well who knows? The future? I don't expect us to be afford to keep running our academy on no central distribution.

I suppose it depends how people look at it.

How I look at it, is that as a rugby league club, in the sense of a large group of people coming together with a shared aim and love of playing and watching RL in Bradford, there's no change, all of that is still there and will carry on. The history is still retained and held in the memories of the clubs members. The colours, the traditions, the ground, the songs, they'll all still be there, which ever league Bradford end up playing in. All that's changed (or will change) is the limited company (the legal entity) running the Rugby League Club.

A RL Club is different to a Limited Company owning/running a RL Club, in my view of course.

Some (like the Fax fan with the semi on a few pages back) will no doubt say that you're a brand new club and have no history, I think that shows them up as the small minded individuals they are to be honest.