Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:52 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

Yeah I've been thinking about the issues us folding are going to cause and drawing pleasure from that prospect.

Hudgell for example is a gob poop who's had it in for us for ages. Remember the Danny Sculthorpe statement where Hudgell solicitors left it for the ex player himself to explain that they hadn't actually won a case against Bradford Bulls? Now releasing statements pleading for RFL to ensure we fulfill our championship fixtures. The thought of him being out of pocket is really funny to me.

Blackpool being a disaster without Bradford and Hull KR being there would be hilarious.

RFL trying to offload Odsal at it eats up cash. Ha ha ha

Blackpool would be meaningless without a full complement of teams whoever makes up the numbers.

I am sorry for your hurt, especially as it seems so great your only pleasure seems to be if others suffer as well. I don't however believe Hudgel has it in for you at all. It is easy to convince yourself that anyone who says anything that you feel is critical as wishing your team ill. He has in fact said he supports the decision that you remain in the Championship. Having made that decision it would be assumed that the RFL have reasons to believe that was going to be possible. You would then be expected to fulfill the fixtures. No one outside the RFL seems to have any real information about what is going on with the differing parties said to be interested.

I hope you survive and in due time prosper again.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:06 pm  

This is likely an unpopular position, but I do feel that Rugby League in this country is fundamentally damaged, and we are only going to see more and more of this sort of thing. If Bradford are genuinely no more at least me stake in it will already be gone.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:07 pm  

The RFL statement said
".......It is hoped that many of the supporters and stakeholders of Bradford Bulls would naturally, in the absence of any other Bradford based RL club, switch their allegiance to the new RL club. In line with the requirements of the Operational Rules and the RFL’s overriding objectives to protect the sport of Rugby League and the ‘Persons’ subject to the Operational Rules, the RFL will look favourably on proposals which will generate goodwill with those supporters..........."

Like switching allegiance is the same as switching your electric supplier.
Let me just check that website "U-switch" - ah yes - it says if I start supporting a no-chancer BBC Ltd Club in the Championship, (who will be relegated anyway due to no players and minus 12 points) - I will get my electric bill reduced by 1p in 2018.
Oh simple then - yep I'll switch my f@ckin allegience just like that!

Tell you what RFL, if you only deduct us 6 points this season I will support the new BBC Club cos at least that way we stand a chance of not getting relegated - thats if we have enough players to actually put a team out.

If the RFL think this approach will keep the gate receipts in tact for Blackpool - they are thicker than I thought - I cant imagine many true Bulls fans turning up to watch Hull KR totally humiliate a team of Bradford youngsters; so how much will that hit the ticket sales.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:17 pm  

the 9 point requirements of the RFL are basically a sugar daddy charter, and one hasn't turned up in the last few rounds of admin, so you would have thought they would have learnt by now. But in the event that one does turn up, you would expect them to say to the RFL stick KR up your middle nostril hole is my condition for buying half a team.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:36 pm  

martinwildbull wrote:

the 9 point requirements of the RFL are basically a sugar daddy charter, and one hasn't turned up in the last few rounds of admin, so you would have thought they would have learnt by now. But in the event that one does turn up, you would expect them to say to the RFL stick KR up your middle nostril hole is my condition for buying half a team.

I cannot imagine any one with the resources to be a sugar daddy coming up with such a statement.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:47 pm  

ridlerbull wrote:

This is likely an unpopular position, but I do feel that Rugby League in this country is fundamentally damaged, and we are only going to see more and more of this sort of thing. If Bradford are genuinely no more at least me stake in it will already be gone.

Unpopular, yes. Lots of people will not like it. But most people will probably agree with it. Myself included.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:57 pm  

7 1/2 weeks. I was wondering how long this would take. Whole range of emotion from Bulls fans, but I would admit rage is one of them. Against our owners & the RFL & the (admittedly few)sanctimonious fans from elsewhere. And the desire to do as much damage to the RFL as we go down & take them with us is there, deep down.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:02 pm  

For the RFL to ask for new owners to give personal financial assurances / guarantees that fixtures will be fulfilled for next 3 seasons they effectively restricted the process to 'money men' and removed the scope for an effective community interest approach with a prudent business plan.

A bit of a shame because it seems most supporters in most sports would rather see an approach ran by prudent business people with a model deep rooted in the community. Governing Bodies need to get real and start encouraging the development of sustainable clubs that serve their communities .

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:19 pm  

I really hope new buyers are found and Bradford take their place, but having looked at the RFL requirements I'm not sure how quickly that can be done.
However, assuming it is sorted in the next few weeks I think there is an argument that Bradford's start to the season is delayed a couple of weeks to allow time to get a team together....I don't know how feasible that will be.
I would also hope that all other clubs will offer a few players for loans to help get the club going, especially in the short term.
Is starting in the Championship a certainty or could the club still start in League 1?

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:20 pm  

Braveheart wrote:

For the RFL to ask for new owners to give personal financial assurances / guarantees that fixtures will be fulfilled for next 3 seasons they effectively restricted the process to 'money men' and removed the scope for an effective community interest approach with a prudent business plan.

A bit of a shame because it seems most supporters in most sports would rather see an approach ran by prudent business people with a model deep rooted in the community. Governing Bodies need to get real and start encouraging the development of sustainable clubs that serve their communities .

The Bulls current set up and the Bulls RFL proposed set will only avoid going back into administration when the owner(s) can no longer get borrow anymore cash or put off paying for things if the person/people in charge a a top business person with loads of cash/a consortium of top business people with loads of cash.

Unfortunately those sorts of people would not find either proposition attractive as there is no return likely from it. If they took on things like those they wouldn't be top business people with loads of cash.

Instead it's attractive to other kinds of people and it's just doomed to failure.

It's like pulling off a plaster for the RFL this. Rip it off its bad but then you can move on. Continue to tug away at it and prolong the agony.