Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:33 am  

The only way that they will sell more season tickets next year would have been to ditch the players who aren't up to the task and to replace them with a couple of quality addition that would clearly improve the teams chances of promotion. Just to go around again with the same team that ultimately weren't good enough and expect all the fans jump on board with the same level of optimism is bonkers.

And as for playing the guilt card and laying the survival of the club at the feet of the fans (yet again), well you can go swivel Mr Ferres. If you don't get enough fans turning up next year then it's because you haven't given them an improved product to buy into, something that every team has to do, not just the promotion chasing teams. Who has signed too many below standard players on long term contracts which has ultimately scuppered any plans of significant team improvements? Was it the fans? Was it bullox!

I'll still be turning up because they are my team. Unfortunately not everybody thinks like that.

Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:55 am  

Pumpetypump wrote:

Only then with absolute beltings going on in the Middle 8s will anything be done to rectify the situation.

What will happen in that scenario is that the Super League clubs will say the Championship sides are not competitive enough to be considered so the top league needs to be a closed shop. That's what most of them want anyway as it guarantees their corn through the TV deals (and we'd be no different in our attitude if we were in it).

I am still of the belief that a coach with anything about him would have got that team promoted in 2015.

Hiring Lowes is the one decision that will come back to haunt Mr Green and for that I am genuinely sorry for the guy because he's very rarely put a foot wrong since he took over. Anyone who knows anything about the game would have looked at the appointment and thought "this isn't going to end well". Signing him was like the county judge signing a death warrant.

Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:58 am  

Deakin must be cringing in his grave. If there were a text book on how NOT to sell a forthcoming season, that article would be a chapter from it.

The worst thing of all is the doom-laden veiled threats that if 5000 fans don't sign up then things will be very bad. Surely anyone with a brain knows that NOBODY - not one single person - who wasn't going to buy a ticket before, will change their minds and buy one because someone suggests they jolly well should?

Idiots. To create and build the value/feelgood/excitement/fun factor needed to make fans WANT to spend their money is a very hard job, but it is the only way, and this sort of depressing crap is the exact opposite of what is needed. This press release is so downbeat, it would be low key even for a blue whale.

Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:59 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

And the reason we lost that game was nothing to do with what had gone before.

Sorry disagree FA. I am willing to back Jimmy next year as the players seem to back him. HOWEVER, he needs to learn from his mistakes he made last year. Sadly the recent article from Harrison suggests he won't and his stubbornness may cost us.

We lost that game due to our bench. I thought we had a better team than Wakey, but our use of the bench cost us. No subs after the 50 minute mark?

Lowes's decision to flog O'brien for 80 minutes all season had an impact on that game. Lowe's persistence with Lauak through out the season had an impact on that game. Lowes's making certain players indispensable while others never really got a chance had an impact on that game. Our failure to get top spot in the championship had an impact on that game as we could have got Wakey at home in the middle 8's and crucially at home in the MPG. He needs to learn from this.

The T&A article isn't great reading. As someone else said, i think we remain FT after this year, but any quality will be snapped up. Which means we will sign cast offs, and our only hope will to produce our own. Sadly we let 3 young promising players go this year. But hey, least we saw Chev Walker and Luakai rip it up in the 8's. Worth sacrificing Sam Bate, Nathan Conroy and Adam Brook (who i still can't believe we have let go)

Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:02 pm  

bullsonfire wrote:

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I am still of the belief that a coach with anything about him would have got that team promoted in 2015.

Hiring Lowes is the one decision that will come back to haunt Mr Green and for that I am genuinely sorry for the guy because he's very rarely put a foot wrong since he took over. Anyone who knows anything about the game would have looked at the appointment and thought "this isn't going to end well". Signing him was like the county judge signing a death warrant.

TBF you ignore the fact that had Addy kicked instead of missed 2 goals then Lowes WOULD have got us into SL.

Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:08 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

We lost that game due to our bench.

We lost that game due to 2 missed goalkicks. that is cold hard fact. Whatever mistakes in bench, selection, substitutions, those you can speculate about all day, you may be right, things may have worked out different, but also they may not, it is all speculation. Whereas the fact that we missed two kicks that would have put us in SL is fact. So we didn't "lose that game due to our bench", I didn't like the team selection either but you can only go so far as to say a different bench MIGHT have done better. Whereas with the kicks, there is absolutely no doubt.

Bull Mania wrote:

Sadly we let 3 young promising players go this year. But hey, least we saw Chev Walker and Luakai rip it up in the 8's. Worth sacrificing Sam Bate, Nathan Conroy and Adam Brook (who i still can't believe we have let go)

Agree

Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:05 pm  

We'd also have won if we'd scored more tries (Blythe on the corner flag) and tackled their try scorers before they got to the line. That's a FACT too.

Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:08 pm  

Nothus wrote:

Well today's t&a article makes for pretty depressing reading. Rather than enticing us to renew our season tickets with positive news, Ferres appears to be adopting scare tactics instead.
And if we really do need 5000 season tickets just to break even then we are fecked, because there is no way in hell we are reaching that number. I will be gobsmacked if we even match last year's total, never mind surpass it.

I wonder why he would need to say these things after such a "successful season?"

After all, every team out there benefits from increasing support and attendances when they are successful don't they?

But not us?

Fancy that.

Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:35 pm  

[quote="Ferocious Aardvark"]TBF you ignore the fact that had Addy kicked instead of missed 2 goals then Lowes WOULD have got us into SL.[/quote]


No we would just have lost the MPG by 4 points

Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:57 pm  

herr rigsby wrote:

No we would just have lost the MPG by 4 points

I wouldn't bother. FA has it all worked out. He knows so much about everything that he even knows what would have happened after our late penalty put us 2 points up.

Even though it is all completely his opinion on what would have happened.

If my aunt had testicles then she would have been my uncle. She doesn't, we didn't.