Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:08 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

The problem with fans' representatives is that the representative starts to look after his or her position more than the interests of the fans, not wanting to give up the status of being on the board and having the inside track on everything. The focus switches to the interests of the Board rather than the fans, and the non-fan members start to use the representative as a publicist, to keep the fans onside.

I've seen it in happen in the wider world, and it is human nature.

Absolutely. The combination of robustness, insight, ability, commitment, humility, integrity etc required is pretty f***ing rare. I can think of a couple of people but I'm pretty sure none would want to do it.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:30 pm  

ridlerbull wrote:

I'm not sure that's entirely true. You'd have to be someone fairly comfortable with being a magnet for abuse from a fair few 'fans', as well as with a roughly 50% chance of at some point never being able to set foot in Odsal (or wherever we end up playing) again. So, essentially someone with no emotional ties to the club or who feels that their relationship with the club is pretty disposable. Not the best qualities in someone to be a fan representative.

Is this a joke? Are you not describing Marc Green?

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:33 pm  

rugbyreddog wrote:

Is this a joke? Are you not describing Marc Green?

Not at all. He's exactly the sort of person who would put himself forward to be part of running the club. That's why it's such a worrying idea.

[Bulliac]

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:39 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

The problem with fans' representatives is that the representative starts to look after his or her position more than the interests of the fans, not wanting to give up the status of being on the board and having the inside track on everything. The focus switches to the interests of the Board rather than the fans, and the non-fan members start to use the representative as a publicist, to keep the fans onside.

I've seen it in happen in the wider world, and it is human nature.

You mentioned the biggest problem in your post Slugger, "starts to look after his or her position more than the interests of the fans", the trouble is, which fans? The fans are individuals, each and every one won't agree on much on anything with their neighbour.

To be truthful, after reading much of the stuff which goes into some supporter forums, I seriously wouldn't want a few of these 'supporters' groups', to run anything more important than the sweet stall. And I doubt that would break even.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:50 pm  

I think that supporter owned should only be used as a stop gap and that it should be done with the aim at Gwtting the clubbing an even Keal and making it a viable proposition for a "money man" to come in and continue progressing the club.

At the moment you are just not an attractive proposition for someone with real money to take u to SL

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:55 pm  

We're not an attractive proposition for our own fans either.

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:58 pm  

So does anyone know what's going on?

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:06 pm  

We don't exist so without been negative aren't a proposition for anyone,
All that's for sale is a franchise of which has a 12 point deduction over its head.

What we need is a money man that is wanting a very big challenge, In another thread Koukash is mentioned he would relish the thought of sticking two fingers up at the RFL

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:07 pm  

I thought there was meant to be something after "close of business today" - anyone have a definition of when that might be, when applied to the RFL?

Re: Phoenix from the flames? : Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:11 pm  

Highlander wrote:

I thought there was meant to be something after "close of business today" - anyone have a definition of when that might be, when applied to the RFL?

about 3:30 when they finish lunch