: Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:54 pm  

Denver Sun wrote: 2 questions. Does the City Circle bus route still exist? or is there a better way to get to Odsal from Wellington Road/Dudley Hill Road (Giants game). No more City Circles. It's listed on this map (PDF document) as going down Bolton Road but I don't think they actually exist anymore. The 645 goes down Otley Road and up Manchester Road as far as Odsal Top. Alternatively the 640/641 goes from Bolton Road and will take you up to Wibsey roundabout, which leaves you with a pub crawl to the stadium.

Denver Sun wrote: 2 questions. Does the City Circle bus route still exist? or is there a better way to get to Odsal from Wellington Road/Dudley Hill Road (Giants game). No more City Circles. It's listed on this map (PDF document) as going down Bolton Road but I don't think they actually exist anymore. The 645 goes down Otley Road and up Manchester Road as far as Odsal Top. Alternatively the 640/641 goes from Bolton Road and will take you up to Wibsey roundabout, which leaves you with a pub crawl to the stadium.

: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:14 pm  

vbfg wrote: No more City Circles. It's listed on this map (PDF document) as going down Bolton Road but I don't think they actually exist anymore. The 645 goes down Otley Road and up Manchester Road as far as Odsal Top. Alternatively the 640/641 goes from Bolton Road and will take you up to Wibsey roundabout, which leaves you with a pub crawl to the stadium. Also, surprisingly no bus route from Queensbury to Odsal surely I can't be the only person who doesn't want to take the car.

vbfg wrote: No more City Circles. It's listed on this map (PDF document) as going down Bolton Road but I don't think they actually exist anymore. The 645 goes down Otley Road and up Manchester Road as far as Odsal Top. Alternatively the 640/641 goes from Bolton Road and will take you up to Wibsey roundabout, which leaves you with a pub crawl to the stadium. Also, surprisingly no bus route from Queensbury to Odsal surely I can't be the only person who doesn't want to take the car.

: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:25 pm  

I can see the sodding building I work in on that photo

Re: OT: the big crater where Bradford city centre used to be : Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:05 pm  

Welcome to Bradford!

What a F*c*in disgrace!

: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:07 am  

Yes indeed its a disgrace and whose gonna put their hands up to it?
Should not the councillors and executives be prosecuted jointly and severally for criminal vandalism

: Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:45 am  

Maybe its a cunning plan to reduce Inner City Crime.

Thanks for the answers regarding bus routes, maybe I'll see some of you at the Giants or Wigan game.

: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:14 am  

Bobs you so right. In my considered view, it is vandalism on an industrial scale. Also its a flawed premise that by building a shopping centre, you can 'regenerate' a city.

Bradford problems aren't that we don't have a Harvey Nics, its unemployment, poor health, low skilled workforce and a general malaise. Civic pride sounds such a lefty phrase, but we need to give the city something to be proud off. Something that's doesn't necessitate a local population with high disposable income.

First x acre city centre park?

Answers on a post card....

: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:26 am  

Council chief executive Tony Reeves said: “The Council always works hard to provide value for money for our residents and the leadership of this Council set the lowest council tax in Yorkshire and Humberside in this municipal year.

“Bradford Council is the fourth largest single-tier authority in the country and we are responsible for making sure we provide the services residents want and need. The wages we pay are comparable with salaries for similar jobs in other councils.”

Alright who ordered the big hole?
If they provided what residents 'need' then it would be free buses to Leeds,Sheffield or Manchester so they could do some shopping.
It's a crime what they've done to Bradford. Never mind though Billy Pearce has been confirmed for next years Panto!

: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:38 am  

bigsi wrote:

Bradford problems aren't that we don't have a Harvey Nics, its unemployment, poor health, low skilled workforce and a general malaise. Civic pride sounds such a lefty phrase, but we need to give the city something to be proud off. Something that's doesn't necessitate a local population with high disposable income.

First x acre city centre park?

Yep, it may sound overly simplistic but if you can make the city centre somewhere people want to spend time then businesses to serve those people will naturally start to spring up.

Bradford will never have a big thriving commercial centre because there is one of them 9 miles away, it has to offer something different rather than simply try schemes to mimic which invariably fail.

[Bullseye]

: Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:59 am  

I know that a few million quid of European Grants went toward the fit out of the Forster Square site with utilities. I wonder if it doesn't go ahead if they'll have to pay it back?