Re: Brook signs for 2 years : Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:51 am  

I'd like to see us keep most of our young home grown lads for next season if we are in the championship, and some of them like Donno and Adam OB have some championship experience at least.

I think we would would probably lose Addy to another SL club, but hopefully keep the likes of Wood, Olbison, Donno, Mellor, OB, Conroy, Bates, Brook together.

Re: Brook signs for 2 years : Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:03 pm  

I think donaldson could get a SL deal somewhere.

[Bulliac]

Re: Brook signs for 2 years : Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:51 pm  

Donno could, yeah I agree.

The big problem for all players involved with both the relegated clubs [whichever they turn out to be...} is that there is only relegation this year and no promotion. Which roughly means there will be around 50 fewer players involved in SL next season. For sure, that doesn't mean that it will just be the players at the relegated clubs who will lose their jobs, as quite a few will, no doubt, find themselves in demand, but given that they are the ones at the bottom of the league you'd have to guess that many may well be out of luck.

That said, with the new central funding and higher cap, there will be jobs going in the championship, all be it on lower than SL wages.

Re: Brook signs for 2 years : Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:08 pm  

Could we afford to run a Full Time squad in the championship next season? What is the salary cap?

Donno is a plodder at best, id be surprised if anybody came in for him. They had chances start of this season.

[Bullseye]

Re: Brook signs for 2 years : Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:39 pm  

I think Donno is too small to make it at a top SL club. He’s got good defensive technique but he offers very little in attack and doesn’t frighten anyone in defence. Same goes for Olbison.

They’d be adequate enough in the championship but if we’re to have a future in SL we need to beef up the backrow. Mellor’s a big lad, as is Ferguson but we need a bit more. We need a wide running scary big forward that can make breaks and hit hard in defence, like a Karl Fairbank, Sonny Nickle type player.

Re: Brook signs for 2 years : Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:57 pm  

Bulls4Champs wrote:

Could we afford to run a Full Time squad in the championship next season? What is the salary cap?

figure being mentioned for championship salary cap is 900k. With team finishing 13th getting highest allocation of central funding around 600k Iirc(crazy that teams within same league get differing amounts of funding BTW). Plus two teams going down get a 250k parachute payment, which only applies this year. So I'd guess we should be able to stay fulltime. Question mark is how much attendances would drop and whether value of sponsorship deals would drop significantly given lower level wed be playing at.

Re: Brook signs for 2 years : Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:01 pm  

mat wrote:

figure being mentioned for championship salary cap is 900k. With team finishing 13th getting highest allocation of central funding around 600k Iirc(crazy that teams within same league get differing amounts of funding BTW). Plus two teams going down get a 250k parachute payment, which only applies this year. So I'd guess we should be able to stay fulltime. Question mark is how much attendances would drop and whether value of sponsorship deals would drop significantly given lower level wed be playing at.

If we're winning games, I wouldn't think we'd have a massive drop of home fans, but travel support would be way down, plus sponsorship and commercial revenue own, or am I being hopelessly optimistic?

Re: Brook signs for 2 years : Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:19 pm  

Mirfieldbull wrote:

travel support would be way down...

But would it?

Yes we'd lose a big following from Leeds and maybe a couple of others, but there are some very thin followings these days in SL.

On the plus side, I think we would get a big following from Halifax, Leigh, Fev, even Keighley. These teams would see us as their 'big game', a prized scalp, and I think they'd tend to bring plenty.

[Bulliac]

Re: Brook signs for 2 years : Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:51 am  

mat wrote:

figure being mentioned for championship salary cap is 900k. With team finishing 13th getting highest allocation of central funding around 600k Iirc(crazy that teams within same league get differing amounts of funding BTW). Plus two teams going down get a 250k parachute payment, which only applies this year. So I'd guess we should be able to stay fulltime. Question mark is how much attendances would drop and whether value of sponsorship deals would drop significantly given lower level wed be playing at.

I worked it out previously working on a £1m cap, but if downgraded to £900K it still comes out as a £36K average for a 25 man squad. Far from mega-money, though way more than most people earn around here. Maybe younger players, still hoping to make the big breakthrough, would be happy with that sort of money. Let's hope we would still be able to afford the sort of coaching team and facilities that would be attractive to such players.

Working on the principle that some of the younger kids will probably be on a bit less, it does allow a little leeway for a couple of seasoned performers, though the idea of 'Marquee' players will a total non starter - unless you maybe balance that with a few part-timers. How the cap money is spent would require a lot of careful thought.

Re: Brook signs for 2 years : Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:44 am  

Bullseye wrote:

I think Donno is too small to make it at a top SL club. He’s got good defensive technique but he offers very little in attack and doesn’t frighten anyone in defence.

Spot on, I have never understood the adulation for Donaldson. the curse of Phil Clarke strikes again.