Re: Why are they bothering? : Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:20 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

We do seem to be forgetting the landlords in all this.

Bfd Met are being squeezed by the government and would like nothing better than to magic up some 'asset', out of thin air, which could be used to bolster their costs. I'm sure the council would love to do a deal, a lion sized deal, shall we call it, over Odsal which would bring in new jobs, new investment and help with the rubbish problem. There, but for that pesky rugby team, all compacted into one sentence...more or less.

Their schools budget is being cut by tens of millions this year. No money to develop Odsal or Richard Dunn so why don't they sell and get some money back and let someone else develop both sites.

Re: Why are they bothering? : Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:25 pm  

woolly07 wrote:

A lot will be said about these two owners but they are not stupid. They are businessmen and they will have a plan in their heads.
We may not get to know about it for a while- maybe a year or two.
Putting aside the finances which I am sure must be sorted in the background the new owners must go down as the most experience we have had for many a year.
Can anyone else remember an owner more qualified?
We won everything with Caisley but he didn't have their experience. And financially Caisley had very little money.

It is going to be a very interesting few years.

There you go a nice bit of positivity!

[Bulliac]

Re: Why are they bothering? : Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:48 pm  

woolly07 wrote:

Their schools budget is being cut by tens of millions this year. No money to develop Odsal or Richard Dunn so why don't they sell and get some money back and let someone else develop both sites.

Indeed. I'd be happy with that, as long as it leaves us with a decent rugby ground. Pity the council has sell assets to pay for current account spending but, sadly, that's the current level of political thinking we get from government these days.

Re: Why are they bothering? : Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:08 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

We do seem to be forgetting the landlords in all this.

Bfd Met are being squeezed by the government and would like nothing better than to magic up some 'asset', out of thin air, which could be used to bolster their costs. I'm sure the council would love to do a deal, a lion sized deal, shall we call it, over Odsal which would bring in new jobs, new investment and help with the rubbish problem. There, but for that pesky rugby team, all compacted into one sentence...more or less.

Ah but, Adeybull over on TotalRL says that the council would consider selling but with Rugby guarantees. So I'll add to the tinfoil hattedness we're getting into... that Sam93 character appeared and posted twice. Once about the club being liquidated (the day before announced) and then out of the blue posts about a the Leo Group owner thanking CBMDC for making the deal possible. So are we being told to tread water, or even sink a little, whilst the plan is finalised?

CBMDC get a nice injection of cash from the sale, RFL get 'experienced RFL bods' to toe the party line, they also get a nice wedge for giving up the lease, Bradford get much needed income and we get a stadium on Dickie Dunns. Downside being Big Nige is sharing office space and running up an eye watering catering bill....

Everyone's a winner, except for Green as the unconnected business formerly known as Southbank is bulldozed along with the Coral stand. Oh dear, how sad, nevermind.

Re: Why are they bothering? : Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:07 pm  

Ah but, Adeybull over on TotalRL says that the council would consider selling but with Rugby guarantees. So I'll add to the tinfoil hattedness we're getting into... that Sam93 character appeared and posted twice. Once about the club being liquidated (the day before announced) and then out of the blue posts about a the Leo Group owner thanking CBMDC for making the deal possible. So are we being told to tread water, or even sink a little, whilst the plan is finalised?

CBMDC get a nice injection of cash from the sale, RFL get 'experienced RFL bods' to toe the party line, they also get a nice wedge for giving up the lease, Bradford get much needed income and we get a stadium on Dickie Dunns. Downside being Big Nige is sharing office space and running up an eye watering catering bill....

Everyone's a winner, except for Green as the unconnected business formerly known as Southbank is bulldozed along with the Coral stand. Oh dear, how sad, nevermind.

And that is about as close to the truth as anyone has got - the other upside being that for their part Chalmers and Lowe get to benefit from the Bulls longer term rehabilitation!

[Bulliac]

Re: Why are they bothering? : Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:14 pm  

Frank Whitcombe wrote:

And that is about as close to the truth as anyone has got - the other upside being that for their part Chalmers and Lowe get to benefit from the Bulls longer term rehabilitation!

Not so sure I'd call it rehabilitation!

Rehab suggests you've hit bottom and you are now getting better, but I'd suggest we have a good bit still to fall, what with still being in the middle division and on -12. Rehab starts after relegation [+admin?] and then div 3. That's when the rehab begins, imo. Wasted year!

Re: Why are they bothering? : Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:21 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

Not so sure I'd call it rehabilitation!

Rehab suggests you've hit bottom and you are now getting better, but I'd suggest we have a good bit still to fall, what with still being in the middle division and on -12. Rehab starts after relegation [+admin?] and then div 3. That's when the rehab begins, imo. Wasted year!

How very true

Re: Why are they bothering? : Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:22 pm  

Frank Whitcombe wrote:

And that is about as close to the truth as anyone has got - the other upside being that for their part Chalmers and Lowe get to benefit from the Bulls longer term rehabilitation!

Frank, so are you suggesting the Leo group are in some way funding this deal?

[Bullseye]

Re: Why are they bothering? : Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:21 pm  

We're assuming there is a deal. Nigel and his two pals currently running things at Odsal don't have the greatest track record let's be honest so it may not happen.

But I have no doubt at all that unlocking the potential of the site is why Chalmers and Lowe have taken on the hassle and Wood is bending over backwards to help.

Re: Why are they bothering? : Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:30 pm  

Frank Whitcombe wrote:

And that is about as close to the truth as anyone has got - the other upside being that for their part Chalmers and Lowe get to benefit from the Bulls longer term rehabilitation!

Unless Chalmers wants to plant trees on the site... Has anyone thought of that!!! A nice logging business at Odsal