Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:26 pm  

bowlingboy wrote:

if they want to survive there is no if's and but's...
Bailey was available and was talking to Bradford but they wouldn't pay him..there in lies the problem,

I assume you've only started following us this season?

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:36 pm  

No mate since about 1993..

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:11 pm  

Nothus wrote:

The lack of updates from those at the top is frustrating, but come on. In all seriousness you can't expect them to put out a statement saying that they tried to sign Bailey but couldn't agree a fee with him?

"Expect"? You're barking up the wrong tree. The topic is that by their lack of signings coupled with their silence on the subject and now the clearly frustrated comment by the coach "("you'd have to ask them") fans have every justification to be very worried that the owners' eyes aren't on the ball.

The issue of Bailey is a complete red herring, he is just one example of someone who may have been available but there is no sign we made any effort. So nobody is asking for one specific 'announcement' about one specific player, but rather what the ferk, in general, is going on. And I wouldn't give a damn about being told, IF things were not going seriously wrong, but they are. I may only be a nutter on a message board, but the ferkin coach 100% agrees with me and many others in saying what he did. That's what I am talking about, and so is everyone else. Is Beattie a nutter too?

Nothus wrote:

We've just signed a prop forward only two weeks ago, how about we give him a chance instead?

What chance would that be, then? Last time I looked, no opposing team nor the fixture list adds any extra chances. We just get one, each week and we are now pis.sing them away due to lack of enough experienced players. As the coach now confirms, in spades. So a "chance" is not in my gift. Nor is it relevant. The only relevant chance is the one to scrape together 2 league points when we play. If you're happy to see the young lads get whupped and demoralised as our "chance" disappears over the hill then that's your right.

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:58 pm  

Leigh Beattie has been initially employed by the club to be the groundskeeper and kit-man.
As at 2015 he was still just working with the juniors as he started trained to be a coach.
For the time being he is covering the role of interim first team coach while issues with visas are negotiated. This is not a situation that anyone wanted.
He is doing his best in a difficult situation.
That quote in the t&a can be read just as much to be a legitimate 'that's not my job to comment on recruitment,' as it can a thinly veiled criticism. It would make no sense for him personally to be critical of anyone on record.

I do not think it is right and fair on him to present him as being a voice critical of the ownership when he has no background in talking or representing the club to the press.

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:54 am  

Cha & Lowe will be judged on whether we stay up or not.
The Bulls fans have been through the mill for enough years now so if we go down we know a lot of fans will (understandably) call it a day.
As long as it is still mathematically possible to stay up I'll accept Cha-Lo are managing their tight purse strings
Nothing I say or do will influence Cha-Lo to buy/loan more/better players
Beattie does seem to be frustrated like the rest of us - cant blame him for that.
Hopefully Tooveys visa will be sorted soon and we can start judging him on results
The people I feel sorry for are our partners - putting up with us whinging all through christmas when we thought our club was a gonner, now sharing a miserable easter cos we lost both games.
Its about time the Bulls fortunes started changing for the better.

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:57 am  

I'm naively hoping there will be some reinforcements announced once the visa fiasco is sorted. To be fair to Cha-Lo we are only 10 games into the season, which should be just about long enough to see the short falls in the team. In my opinion I don't think we are that far off the mark. Some experienced pack members will make a massive difference to our team and maybe an average utility back to use as required.

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:09 am  

I agree with Anita, just hope they seize the moment and act quickly and effectively to give us a fighting chance.

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:29 am  

Anita Madigan wrote:

I'm naively hoping there will be some reinforcements announced once the visa fiasco is sorted.

I'm also in this boat. Hoping there are some waiting in the wings that they haven't announced because they made that mistake with Phoenix and all it did was get people's hopes up for something that just isn't happening yet.

The only issue with it is that I was hoping those announcements would be due about 2 months ago when the visas were sorted. But every week we hear "the visas should be sorted soon" and then every week feck all happens.

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:42 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

"Expect"? You're barking up the wrong tree. The topic is that by their lack of signings coupled with their silence on the subject and now the clearly frustrated comment by the coach "("you'd have to ask them") fans have every justification to be very worried that the owners' eyes aren't on the ball.

The issue of Bailey is a complete red herring, he is just one example of someone who may have been available but there is no sign we made any effort. So nobody is asking for one specific 'announcement' about one specific player, but rather what the ferk, in general, is going on. And I wouldn't give a damn about being told, IF things were not going seriously wrong, but they are. I may only be a nutter on a message board, but the ferkin coach 100% agrees with me and many others in saying what he did. That's what I am talking about, and so is everyone else. Is Beattie a nutter too?

What chance would that be, then? Last time I looked, no opposing team nor the fixture list adds any extra chances. We just get one, each week and we are now pis.sing them away due to lack of enough experienced players. As the coach now confirms, in spades. So a "chance" is not in my gift. Nor is it relevant. The only relevant chance is the one to scrape together 2 league points when we play. If you're happy to see the young lads get whupped and demoralised as our "chance" disappears over the hill then that's your right.

You were moaning at the lack of signings, namely props.
I pointed out that we have just signed one only two weeks ago. From Hunslet. I'm not seeing many names of available props being mentioned on here. So no, obviously it is not ideal for us to be playing 18/19 year old kids every week, but I think it's pretty clear that there aren't that many available players out there right now.

You can read what you like into that quote from Beattie, but it certainly doesn't 'confirm' that he's frustrated and thinks we're p!ssing away our chances of staying up.

Re: Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy : Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:31 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

t the ferkin coach 100% agrees with me and many others in saying what he did.

That simply isn't true - as another poster has already said, there are a number of ways that you can interpret Beattie's comments and it's more likely that he was sticking to his pay grade.