Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 12:46 pm  

BBN is liquidated, so unless there is an issue on timing TUPE can't apply.

Given the RFL gave a 2 week deadline to submit bids to form a new company to run a team in Bradford, I'd have expected legal claims to happen in that period for any TUPE claims.

Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 12:49 pm  

Mirfieldbull wrote:

BBN is liquidated, so unless there is an issue on timing TUPE can't apply.

Given the RFL gave a 2 week deadline to submit bids to form a new company to run a team in Bradford, I'd have expected legal claims to happen in that period for any TUPE claims.

It isn't liquidated yet, that's the point. Go and check on companies house, the company is still in the process of being liquidated.

Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 12:51 pm  

Nothus wrote: It isn't liquidated yet, that's the point. Go and check on companies house, the company is still in the process of being liquidated. How CAN they still be being liquidated? They can't have anything to BE liquidated! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82KP7otdYJw

Nothus wrote: It isn't liquidated yet, that's the point. Go and check on companies house, the company is still in the process of being liquidated. How CAN they still be being liquidated? They can't have anything to BE liquidated! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82KP7otdYJw

Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 12:55 pm  

Fr13daY wrote: How CAN they still be being liquidated? They can't have anything to BE liquidated! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82KP7otdYJw One reason could be that HMRC are dragging their heels or objecting to the company being wound up. Weren't they supposed to be going after Marc Green personally? They might want to keep the company alive while they do so.

Fr13daY wrote: How CAN they still be being liquidated? They can't have anything to BE liquidated! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82KP7otdYJw One reason could be that HMRC are dragging their heels or objecting to the company being wound up. Weren't they supposed to be going after Marc Green personally? They might want to keep the company alive while they do so.

Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 12:57 pm  

Nothus wrote:

It isn't liquidated yet, that's the point. Go and check on companies house, the company is still in the process of being liquidated.

Ok so the process isn't complete, but the administrator and the RFL were clear that it was in administration (or would be at some time in the future), so the new co took on the RFL license in good faith, having been approved by the RFL. If there is a basis of a claim, I can't see any way it can stick on new co, the RFOr administrator are potential targets

Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 12:58 pm  

Mirfieldbull wrote:

Ok so the process isn't complete, but the administrator and the RFL were clear that it was in administration (or would be at some time in the future), so the new co took on the RFL license in good faith, having been approved by the RFL. If there is a basis of a claim, I can't see any way it can stick on new co, the RFOr administrator are potential targets

Apologies for administration read liquidation

Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 12:59 pm  

Nothus wrote: The only thing I can think of that might drag the newco into this is whether there was any tupe stuff going on between the two companies. We all thought BBN Ltd was liquidated but that doesn't appear to be the case, so who knows. Well according to the rather interesting administrators report, the club assets (I.E The logo, brand etc) were sold to the RFL for £60,000 on 18th January So even if the holding company got brought by someone on the 19th for example, they couldn't call themselves Bradford Bulls. I believe once they RFL legally brought the asset brand, they can do what they like with it. They then obviously sold it to Chalmers and Lowe at a later date. Basically if anyone of us brought a ST from the club during the admin period (which is an asset as such) it doesn't make us liable for staff wages. Same with the RFL buying the brand. doesn't make us or them suddenly liable for unpaid wages i believe. I'm no legal expert and could be completely wrong, but from my limited knowledge, that's how i underatnd it and i believe we won't have anything to answer to. Admin report below. First time i've read it and just made the blood boil again https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/docu ... 3qnLyAU%3D

Nothus wrote: The only thing I can think of that might drag the newco into this is whether there was any tupe stuff going on between the two companies. We all thought BBN Ltd was liquidated but that doesn't appear to be the case, so who knows. Well according to the rather interesting administrators report, the club assets (I.E The logo, brand etc) were sold to the RFL for £60,000 on 18th January So even if the holding company got brought by someone on the 19th for example, they couldn't call themselves Bradford Bulls. I believe once they RFL legally brought the asset brand, they can do what they like with it. They then obviously sold it to Chalmers and Lowe at a later date. Basically if anyone of us brought a ST from the club during the admin period (which is an asset as such) it doesn't make us liable for staff wages. Same with the RFL buying the brand. doesn't make us or them suddenly liable for unpaid wages i believe. I'm no legal expert and could be completely wrong, but from my limited knowledge, that's how i underatnd it and i believe we won't have anything to answer to. Admin report below. First time i've read it and just made the blood boil again https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/docu ... 3qnLyAU%3D

[Bullseye]

Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 1:01 pm  

Link doesn't work mate.

Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 1:15 pm  

Try this then view PDF https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history

Try this then view PDF https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history

Re: Court Cases Brewing - Trouble ahead : Wed May 10, 2017 2:32 pm  

Nothus wrote:

The article in the guardian mentions that some of the individuals making the claims are being represented by the same solicitor that is dealing with the Cas/Denny Solomona case.
Those muppets on twitter might not realise the difference but I'm pretty sure that solicitor knows what's up.

The only thing I can think of that might drag the newco into this is whether there was any tupe stuff going on between the two companies. We all thought BBN Ltd was liquidated but that doesn't appear to be the case, so who knows.

There were no staff to TUPE across as they were all made redundant by the adminstrator.