Re: Fans Forum 16th August : Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:26 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

I've ordered tickets so planning to go barring any last minute work commitments. It's make or break for me. If I leave Odsal on Wed feeling like I've wasted my evening listening to a load of spin it will more than likely be my last visit to Odsal for the foreseeable future.

Same. I've ordered a ticket and at the moment I'm intending to go

But if I walk away feeling like I've been fobbed off then I'm walking away for the foreseeable

[Bullseye]

Re: Fans Forum 16th August : Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:28 pm  

I'm thinking along the same lines but will probably still go to U19s games for a rugby fix.

Useful place to watch future stars of other teams begin

Re: Fans Forum 16th August : Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:41 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Anyone else going off here apart from me, Ricky and Frank?

I'm planning to go but don't expect it's going to be a pleasant experience for either side of the table. I think it's going to be a no win situation for Chalmers as if he puts up a positive aspect he will be criticised for spinning it, if negative then he's not taking it serious.

On other hand there are questions that I think do need asking.

For me, the fan representation one is interesting but there are a lot of big voices who seem to have support around them. My fear would be that no single voice can represent all the fans.

Instead I would prefer too see an official supporters group established. I'm fed up of the mob on Facebook claiming to be the voice of the fans. Sorry but they are not and I find it really annoying they get the attention and ability to speak publicly as they do. An official group would sideline them.

[Bullseye]

Re: Fans Forum 16th August : Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:48 pm  

Agree an official group would have more credibility. Anyone can sign up to a Facebook group. But I doubt that any kind of fan rep on the board is realistic. You'd have to be mad to take that role on.

I think Chalmers can win over the room if he's honest and avoids the management bull that he's unfortunately prone to. You'll never please everyone but I still believe it wouldn't take that much to turn things around. He'd obviously have to follow through the words with actions.

Re: Fans Forum 16th August : Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:11 pm  

Frank Whitcombe wrote:

You are quoted as suggesting that we should treat next year as a 1 year diversion on the route back to success - what do you see as the most critical requirements in terms of playing and backroom staff for next years promotion challenge?

It may be worth pointing out that far from being a one year diversion it is closer to 12 year diversion.

Re: Fans Forum 16th August : Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:58 am  

Several good questions Bullseye.
But AC is a true business man (you can see that in his list of companies) so he will give us all the answers that makes us feel warm and secure.
Then he'll just carry on regardless of our feelings. I cant see him making money out of this latest venture (unless £'s cross palms for the ground/site) so he's either in this to tick the Bulls off his bucket list or as a favour to his pal Nige.

I'd be surprised if AC was still with us this time next year unless promotion (to SL2) is guaranteed.

He will probably use my list of "poll answers" as a check sheet at the forum because at least one of them could answer every question.

But I genuinely respect you guys that are going and will ask him the tough questions; you've stuck in there when most of us have called it a day.

But irrespective of his answers, if we choose to support this club - we need to win more games than we lose; whatever league we are in - and he has known that since January.

I'll give him that it was a really shoite start to the season with minus 12, no players, no club etc - but he knew that was what he was buying. So this season he has a clean slate (albeit the court cases/ET still hanging over us) so this is his last roll of the dice.

Re: Fans Forum 16th August : Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:49 am  

If I think about this season (I try hard not to) then what grates is we made a fantastic start and would not have been relegated if we'd added the necessary bodies to keep a reasonable standard up. Instead we stood on the tracks doing nothing, despite everyone knowing the Easter train was coming, it hit us, and we never recovered.

You can all say what you want about player availability, I'm sure that if we'd had had a decent amount of money available then we could have plugged the gaps at least enough not to sink. TBF ChaLow always made it clear they didn't have the money but it didn't make the pill any less bitter to watch the completely predictable collapse.

Ironically, keeping the ship afloat in 2018 (if they do) will likely cost them much more money than raising enough to plug the gaps would have done pre-Easter.

[Bullseye]

Re: Fans Forum 16th August : Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:54 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Ironically, keeping the ship afloat in 2018 (if they do) will likely cost them much more money than raising enough to plug the gaps would have done pre-Easter.

Good point that. Question for tomorrow night "Which do you think is the least expensive course of action 1. Buying players to prevent being caught under strength over Easter and the following weeks and thus avoiding relegation or 2. Spending an entire season in C1 and having lower attendances?

Re: Fans Forum 16th August : Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:07 pm  

I think they'll probably come back with the signings of Chisholm, Smith etc. If Chisholm hadn't have got injured in the SB, i genuinely think we would have been alright. We never recovered from the thuggery game against Dewsbury, Weak refereeing allowed kids to be hurt that day. You could see the whole squad just deflate. I think a few were shook up from what was allowed to happen that day. Losing became a habit and with referees allowing the nonsense in the Swinton, Dewsbury games etc to carry on, our young squad just weren't experienced enough to rise above it.

Re: Fans Forum 16th August : Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:11 pm  

It was the expectation and then the disappointment which annoyed and irritated me. We were told by one journalist we were to have a jaw droppingly good coach named. It turned out to be Toovey. The "expectation" was that surely he would be backed by incoming players. We announced the squad numbers with no 10, 12, or 13 listed. Again the "expectation" was that reinforcements would be coming. But nothing happened. From then on as we know, nothing happened and absolutely no communication all season from the board, apart from the Q & A a couple of forum members tried to drag from them. All told a disastrous season, with regrettably for me, own goals which could and ought to have been avoided.