[Bullseye]

Re: Widnes : Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:16 pm  

Yeah depressingly familiar.

Re: Widnes : Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:56 pm  

Nothus wrote:

This is happening far too often. If clubs, including ours, are going to continue to demonstrate that they are incapable of managing their finances then I think the rfl need to demand full access to the books of all clubs so that they can block player signings and contract extensions if a club is piling up debts to other parties.

Don't disagree with this (in principle) but the real problem lies before we get here...

Marc Green
James Rule
Austria Holdings

All passed the "fit & proper person" criteria (if there is actually any documented process that is)

Lets be realistic, if the RFL are capable of these decisions - there seems little point in assuming they have the ability or will to ensure proper standards are met once the "fit & proper person" has his mitts on the club

Re: Widnes : Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:58 pm  

Marc Green you could maybe given benefit of the doubt passing but Rule had a 9 month suspension from his time at Hull. No excuse.

Re: Widnes : Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:12 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

Marc Green you could maybe given benefit of the doubt passing but Rule had a 9 month suspension from his time at Hull. No excuse.

The Fit and Proper/Influential Person criteria can only apply as to whether or not there are previous problems.The RFL do not possess crystal balls to foresee how the individuals will conduct themselves in the future.

Green may not have misbehaved previously.
Rule had his problem when he attempted to hoodwink the UK Anti-Doping while at Hull - so NOT financial issues.
The one at Keighley seems strange,but if the company was in different names to the individual who took control - that MAY
explain it.

Until some action is taken against those who cause so much heartache to coaches,players and fans,it seems it will continue.

Re: Widnes : Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:19 pm  

So sorry for the Widnes supporters and club, just hope they can get themselves sorted out now.

Re: Widnes : Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:16 pm  

Ornery Optimist wrote:

The Fit and Proper/Influential Person criteria can only apply as to whether or not there are previous problems.The RFL do not possess crystal balls to foresee how the individuals will conduct themselves in the future.

Green may not have misbehaved previously.
Rule had his problem when he attempted to hoodwink the UK Anti-Doping while at Hull - so NOT financial issues.
The one at Keighley seems strange,but if the company was in different names to the individual who took control - that MAY
explain it.

Until some action is taken against those who cause so much heartache to coaches,players and fans,it seems it will continue.

Yep, pretty much.
Open books would have allowed the governing body to spot the disaster approaching before it got to this stage.

Re: Widnes : Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:24 pm  

Raid them for Gelling.

Re: Widnes : Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:42 pm  

Bulls4Champs wrote:

Raid them for Gelling.

Stay classy.

Re: Widnes : Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:46 pm  

Nothus wrote:

Stay classy.

Just like all the other clubs did when we were in trouble you mean?

Re: Widnes : Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:49 pm  

roofaldo2 wrote:

Just like all the other clubs did when we were in trouble you mean?

They aren't even officially in admin yet!
And two wrongs don't make a right.