Re: Fans Forum / Financial plight : Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:18 pm  

I keep looking through the attendance stats for the drop of 5000, it does not seem to be there, we have shipped more off the average gate in the last few years when our off field activities have been attracting more attention than those on the field. Like most fans I have an irrational sentimental attachment to Odsal but going forward it is clear we need to take whatever steps are necessary to keep the money on maintaining the team on the pitch wherever that pitch might be in Braford.

Re: Fans Forum / Financial plight : Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:50 pm  

mat wrote:

The RFL paya a peppercorn rent to bradford council for the primary lease. Thinks its nominally £1. Bulls pay RFL something in region of 70k a year. Pretty sure bulls would love to pay RFL same rent as RFL pays council.

Pretty sure they wouldn't. The upkeep of the ground to basic OH&S standard's and the minimum requirements of the RFL & SL must cost way above the 100K mark, with the Landlord being the RFL its up to them to make sure it does. I don't think they charge the Bulls the difference as part of the behind the scenes help!

Re: Fans Forum / Financial plight : Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:14 pm  

Northernrelic wrote:

I keep looking through the attendance stats for the drop of 5000, it does not seem to be there, we have shipped more off the average gate in the last few years when our off field activities have been attracting more attention than those on the field. Like most fans I have an irrational sentimental attachment to Odsal but going forward it is clear we need to take whatever steps are necessary to keep the money on maintaining the team on the pitch wherever that pitch might be in Braford.

Quite right.

The most pressing is the attendances and as FC has remarked on the Bulls website. The supporters who go to matches encourage everyone they know to go and be involved. The supporters have a right to demand high class, ruthless, competitive rugby from the club and the players.

Supporters have to put the past into the past and get up there, the Bulls are not just a team but representative of the great city of Bradford.

It is that same sense of passion, determination and ruthlessness from board to the team on the field that will project the club to success.

Mentioning sponsors, lets not forget Provident, they are keen to ensure that they can help and I am grateful for such a high profile and powerful sponsor.

Re: Fans Forum 4th Dec : Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:12 am  

Adeybull wrote:

Were you at the forum?

The point I think Moore was making was that when OK took over, the club had zero debt (it was, after all, a completely new company) and significant operating costs to meet. It now has £1.2m of debt, and significant operating costs to meet. Simple statement of fact about why the financial position now is worse than then.

The interpretation (or misinterpretation) of what was said is down to you. My interpretation differs to yours, since I took it as a simple statement of fact.

If you were at the forum, you will also know that they made it clear that OK - and the rest of the previous administration - indeed had no grounding in RL, or in running a joined-up business involving sport, stadium, hospitality and merchandising. Again, not my interpretation, simply repeating what was actually said. He went on to say that OK seemed to leave all the day to day decsions to Whitcu*t, and used words to the effect that the latter was effectively out of control.

I'm not sure who has had dealings with and been involved in meetings with any of the OK administration. But as one who has, I saw with my own eyes very clear specific examples of where Whitcu*t had clearly not briefed OK, or may even have told him things that were not correct. Maybe he was telling OK what he wanted to hear. And for one of those points, which affected me and my colleagues very directly, I had to put him straight very directly indeed, in front of Whitcu*t.

When history comes to be written, although OK was his own worst enemy in some respects, I feel sure it will record that he was badly let down by some he relied on.

It's not 'simple' as you're no doubt well aware but don't let that hold you back.

Re: Fans Forum / Financial plight : Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:21 am  

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Re: Fans Forum / Financial plight : Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:22 am  

mystic eddie wrote:

Koukash will not be seen for dust once he realises that he cannot polish a turd.

Koukash doesn't need to polish any turds. If he were to find out he'd bought a pup he'd simply put it out and bring in a thoroughbred.

Re: Fans Forum / Financial plight : Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:29 am  

Bulliac wrote:

Koukash doesn't need to polish any turds. If he were to find out he'd bought a pup he'd simply put it out and bring in a thoroughbred.

Serious question - do you honestly think that Koukash will be at Salford for the long haul?

Re: Fans Forum / Financial plight : Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:32 am  

mystic eddie wrote: Koukash will not be seen for dust once he realises that he cannot polish a turd. Why do you keep peddling these myths on here, is it some form of OCD? http://www.howtocleanstuff.net/how-to-polish-a-turd/

mystic eddie wrote: Koukash will not be seen for dust once he realises that he cannot polish a turd. Why do you keep peddling these myths on here, is it some form of OCD? http://www.howtocleanstuff.net/how-to-polish-a-turd/

Re: Fans Forum / Financial plight : Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:32 am  

martinwildbull wrote: http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=529680&p=16973693&tsmp=1386320053#p16973693 ITYS * Awaits the clamour of people coming in to give verbal to you for pointing out that "I told you so" * It won't happen though. We all know that it won't happen. The hypocrites will say nowt.

martinwildbull wrote: http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=529680&p=16973693&tsmp=1386320053#p16973693 ITYS * Awaits the clamour of people coming in to give verbal to you for pointing out that "I told you so" * It won't happen though. We all know that it won't happen. The hypocrites will say nowt.

Re: Fans Forum / Financial plight : Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:34 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: Why do you keep peddling these myths on here, is it some form of OCD? http://www.howtocleanstuff.net/how-to-polish-a-turd/ Heh heh. Good website. I will pass it on to the missus so she can tart herself up for the upcoming Christmas party.

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: Why do you keep peddling these myths on here, is it some form of OCD? http://www.howtocleanstuff.net/how-to-polish-a-turd/ Heh heh. Good website. I will pass it on to the missus so she can tart herself up for the upcoming Christmas party.